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[story] Aya #something
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emmel
2009-09-19 13:24:05 UTC
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OK, this is the third Aya number one, I think. At least the third I
posted. Hopefully that one will give me the right angle to write what I
want to write.
Anyway, I'd appreciate any comments. Actually, I'd primarily
appreciate comments on the content rather than my typos... (I hope there
aren't too many in there to make it unreadable.) I need to know if that
works out, or if I'm heading into the totally wrong direction.

*****

One should think that all wound heal with time, but some never seem
to. Not really. Not the big ones. Not the ones in your soul. And so
I'm still having nights like this once in a while, even after all
those years. Restless nights. Nights where I'd wake up after an hour
or two and just can't ease my mind back into sleep. Nights where my
thoughts just keep running in circles, always returning to the one
thing I want to never remember. And even though I have slept only
maybe five hours those last two days, I know I won't find any rest
before dusk.
Next to me, I can hear and feel Kay breathing slowly and
deeply, my little cousin, her chest rising and sinking with the
peaceful rhythm of a world without pain. It's almost enviable. When
she's having a bad night, she just slips into my bed, snuggles up to
me and in a matter of seconds she will be fast asleep. Still, better
this way than the other way round. A good night's rest is the least
she deserves, after all she has been through. Being just a baby back
then never made it easier on her, just harder.
Poor, little brave Kay. So infinitely stronger than me in so
many ways. And yet she picks me as her role model. What was she only
thinking? Anyway, she's grounded for the next two weeks. If nothing
else, it will keep her out of trouble, but that's the end of the
story. Let's start at the beginning.
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Neo
2009-09-19 14:42:13 UTC
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Post by emmel
OK, this is the third Aya number one, I think. At least the third I
posted. Hopefully that one will give me the right angle to write what I
want to write.
Anyway, I'd appreciate any comments. Actually, I'd primarily
appreciate comments on the content rather than my typos... (I hope there
aren't too many in there to make it unreadable.) I need to know if that
works out, or if I'm heading into the totally wrong direction.
*****
One should think that all wound heal with time, but some never seem
to. Not really. Not the big ones. Not the ones in your soul. And so
I'm still having nights like this once in a while, even after all
those years. Restless nights. Nights where I'd wake up after an hour
or two and just can't ease my mind back into sleep. Nights where my
thoughts just keep running in circles, always returning to the one
thing I want to never remember. And even though I have slept only
maybe five hours those last two days, I know I won't find any rest
before dusk.
Next to me, I can hear and feel Kay breathing slowly and
deeply, my little cousin, her chest rising and sinking with the
peaceful rhythm of a world without pain. It's almost enviable. When
she's having a bad night, she just slips into my bed, snuggles up to
me and in a matter of seconds she will be fast asleep. Still, better
this way than the other way round. A good night's rest is the least
she deserves, after all she has been through. Being just a baby back
then never made it easier on her, just harder.
Poor, little brave Kay. So infinitely stronger than me in so
many ways. And yet she picks me as her role model. What was she only
thinking? Anyway, she's grounded for the next two weeks. If nothing
else, it will keep her out of trouble, but that's the end of the
story. Let's start at the beginning.
Somehow I always mistake 'Kay' for Aya's father. Maybe we should ask Red
Dragon if it could be a male name in US English.

I have been thinking lately about Laiva and Aya (we have had these
discussions before). I came to think they must be linked to your
personal life somehow. Laiva cast away from home after an argument. And
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.

What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.

At least if you are not working or moving into a new house or something.
When work needs to be done, writing stories distracts from that. Though
work might turn out productive in finding new plot lines!

Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-19 15:45:43 UTC
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Post by Neo
Post by emmel
OK, this is the third Aya number one, I think. At least the third I
posted. Hopefully that one will give me the right angle to write what I
want to write.
Anyway, I'd appreciate any comments. Actually, I'd primarily
appreciate comments on the content rather than my typos... (I hope there
aren't too many in there to make it unreadable.) I need to know if that
works out, or if I'm heading into the totally wrong direction.
*****
One should think that all wound heal with time, but some never seem
to. Not really. Not the big ones. Not the ones in your soul. And so
I'm still having nights like this once in a while, even after all
those years. Restless nights. Nights where I'd wake up after an hour
or two and just can't ease my mind back into sleep. Nights where my
thoughts just keep running in circles, always returning to the one
thing I want to never remember. And even though I have slept only
maybe five hours those last two days, I know I won't find any rest
before dusk.
Next to me, I can hear and feel Kay breathing slowly and
deeply, my little cousin, her chest rising and sinking with the
peaceful rhythm of a world without pain. It's almost enviable. When
she's having a bad night, she just slips into my bed, snuggles up to
me and in a matter of seconds she will be fast asleep. Still, better
this way than the other way round. A good night's rest is the least
she deserves, after all she has been through. Being just a baby back
then never made it easier on her, just harder.
Poor, little brave Kay. So infinitely stronger than me in so
many ways. And yet she picks me as her role model. What was she only
thinking? Anyway, she's grounded for the next two weeks. If nothing
else, it will keep her out of trouble, but that's the end of the
story. Let's start at the beginning.
Somehow I always mistake 'Kay' for Aya's father. Maybe we should ask Red
Dragon if it could be a male name in US English.
Yeah, 'Kai' definitely is a male name, but then 'Kay' is pronounced
differently ('kɑi' in contrast to 'keɪ', I think) and to be frank it's
just a shorthand for Kaitelij. Aya's father is Forrester (Kendri).
Post by Neo
I have been thinking lately about Laiva and Aya (we have had these
discussions before). I came to think they must be linked to your
personal life somehow. Laiva cast away from home after an argument. And
It's a long time since I've created that character, and indeed the basic
outline of the story. I'm not sure how much of my life went into this
one.
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Post by Neo
What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't have to worry about that. Interesting enough, I
only seem to be able to write in a rather calm (and idle) state of mind.
Those emotions may be similar to mine, but in the end they come from the
character's situation.
Post by Neo
At least if you are not working or moving into a new house or something.
When work needs to be done, writing stories distracts from that. Though
work might turn out productive in finding new plot lines!
Well, I have a few lined up, I just have to deal with the details and
bash them out. Things tend to get changed around until they are fixed in
some way, making it hard to built upon the story past.
Post by Neo
Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)
No, really, that's fine. Besides, knowing what you think about it helps.
I have a very one sided view of them since, as I have said, am more or
less immersed into them. I tend to see those characters as themselves,
not mediated through what I write. I know how they tick.
--
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Red Dragon
2009-09-19 16:20:09 UTC
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Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
OK, this is the third Aya number one, I think. At least the third I
posted. Hopefully that one will give me the right angle to write what I
want to write.
Anyway, I'd appreciate any comments. Actually, I'd primarily
appreciate comments on the content rather than my typos... (I hope there
aren't too many in there to make it unreadable.) I need to know if that
works out, or if I'm heading into the totally wrong direction.
*****
One should think that all wound heal with time, but some never seem
to. Not really. Not the big ones. Not the ones in your soul. And so
I'm still having nights like this once in a while, even after all
those years. Restless nights. Nights where I'd wake up after an hour
or two and just can't ease my mind back into sleep. Nights where my
thoughts just keep running in circles, always returning to the one
thing I want to never remember. And even though I have slept only
maybe five hours those last two days, I know I won't find any rest
before dusk.
Next to me, I can hear and feel Kay breathing slowly and
deeply, my little cousin, her chest rising and sinking with the
peaceful rhythm of a world without pain. It's almost enviable. When
she's having a bad night, she just slips into my bed, snuggles up to
me and in a matter of seconds she will be fast asleep. Still, better
this way than the other way round. A good night's rest is the least
she deserves, after all she has been through. Being just a baby back
then never made it easier on her, just harder.
Poor, little brave Kay. So infinitely stronger than me in so
many ways. And yet she picks me as her role model. What was she only
thinking? Anyway, she's grounded for the next two weeks. If nothing
else, it will keep her out of trouble, but that's the end of the
story. Let's start at the beginning.
Somehow I always mistake 'Kay' for Aya's father. Maybe we should ask Red
Dragon if it could be a male name in US English.
Yeah, 'Kai' definitely is a male name, but then 'Kay' is pronounced
differently ('kɑi' in contrast to 'keɪ', I think) and to be frank it's
just a shorthand for Kaitelij. Aya's father is Forrester (Kendri).
Kay is more likely to be a female name in US English, much in the way
Shannon is more likely to be female (there are men named Shannon, but
rarely). It's traditionally a shortened version of Katherine, like Kate.

Kai, however, is actually pretty unisex I think.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I have been thinking lately about Laiva and Aya (we have had these
discussions before). I came to think they must be linked to your
personal life somehow. Laiva cast away from home after an argument. And
It's a long time since I've created that character, and indeed the basic
outline of the story. I'm not sure how much of my life went into this
one.
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
In love with your ideal self anyway. I believe that is not too uncommon.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't have to worry about that. Interesting enough, I
only seem to be able to write in a rather calm (and idle) state of mind.
Those emotions may be similar to mine, but in the end they come from the
character's situation.
That sounds better. You don't have to be in emotional turmoil to be an
artist, and the fact that you can convey such without feeling it at the
time tells me you're a talented individual indeed.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
At least if you are not working or moving into a new house or something.
When work needs to be done, writing stories distracts from that. Though
work might turn out productive in finding new plot lines!
Well, I have a few lined up, I just have to deal with the details and
bash them out. Things tend to get changed around until they are fixed in
some way, making it hard to built upon the story past.
Post by Neo
Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)
No, really, that's fine. Besides, knowing what you think about it helps.
I have a very one sided view of them since, as I have said, am more or
less immersed into them. I tend to see those characters as themselves,
not mediated through what I write. I know how they tick.
It's too bad there isn't a trick for writing like there is for drawings.

Holding a drawing up to a mirror will immediately show me all it's flaws
I couldn't see at the time of being immersed in it. This can actually be
a bit too harsh of a critic though...
emmel
2009-09-19 19:49:20 UTC
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Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
In love with your ideal self anyway. I believe that is not too uncommon.
My better half ;-)
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't have to worry about that. Interesting enough, I
only seem to be able to write in a rather calm (and idle) state of mind.
Those emotions may be similar to mine, but in the end they come from the
character's situation.
That sounds better. You don't have to be in emotional turmoil to be an
artist, and the fact that you can convey such without feeling it at the
time tells me you're a talented individual indeed.
Oh, I'm totally feeling it at the time, at least a bit. I think you
can't write without a bit of empathy.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)
No, really, that's fine. Besides, knowing what you think about it helps.
I have a very one sided view of them since, as I have said, am more or
less immersed into them. I tend to see those characters as themselves,
not mediated through what I write. I know how they tick.
It's too bad there isn't a trick for writing like there is for drawings.
Holding a drawing up to a mirror will immediately show me all it's flaws
I couldn't see at the time of being immersed in it. This can actually be
a bit too harsh of a critic though...
Well, when it comes to my drawing it's enough to start at the top left
and then continue to the right bottom. Anyway: Have you mentioned
drawing before? I have a faint memory you did and you didn't want to
show any of what you have done. Or is my memory playing tricks on me
again?
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Anna Chenoweth
2009-09-22 15:36:20 UTC
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Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
It's too bad there isn't a trick for writing like there is for drawings.
Holding a drawing up to a mirror will immediately show me all it's flaws
I couldn't see at the time of being immersed in it. This can actually be
a bit too harsh of a critic though...
Well, when it comes to my drawing it's enough to start at the top left
and then continue to the right bottom. Anyway: Have you mentioned
drawing before? I have a faint memory you did and you didn't want to
show any of what you have done. Or is my memory playing tricks on me
again?
I might having mentioned it, but most of what I've done is for school,
so it's
a bit boring. I learned from having to meet assignments that doing
art for
other people makes me lose my love of doing it.

On a different topic, sorry if this post comes out odd. My reader
won't let
me into the group feed and I'm using Google currently.
emmel
2009-09-22 16:44:04 UTC
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Post by Anna Chenoweth
<ker-snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
It's too bad there isn't a trick for writing like there is for drawings.
Holding a drawing up to a mirror will immediately show me all it's flaws
I couldn't see at the time of being immersed in it. This can actually be
a bit too harsh of a critic though...
Well, when it comes to my drawing it's enough to start at the top left
and then continue to the right bottom. Anyway: Have you mentioned
drawing before? I have a faint memory you did and you didn't want to
show any of what you have done. Or is my memory playing tricks on me
again?
I might having mentioned it, but most of what I've done is for school,
so it's
a bit boring. I learned from having to meet assignments that doing
art for
other people makes me lose my love of doing it.
Ah, that's sad.
Post by Anna Chenoweth
On a different topic, sorry if this post comes out odd. My reader
won't let
me into the group feed and I'm using Google currently.
Yup, the formatting is horribly. And you've spilled your real name, it
seems. Anything I can do to help with your reader?
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Neo
2009-09-25 13:29:02 UTC
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Post by emmel
Post by Anna Chenoweth
On a different topic, sorry if this post comes out odd. My reader
won't let
me into the group feed and I'm using Google currently.
Yup, the formatting is horribly. And you've spilled your real name, it
seems. Anything I can do to help with your reader?
Somehow I don't think Red Dragon intended to post her name and e-mail
address using Google groups.

In the days of Deja you could, by replying to a challenge per e-mail,
remove posts from their usenet archive. I did it once on AGC with a post
I regretted (and erased from usenet history).

But I don't think emmel can remove his post. Unless invalid.invalid is
your real domain!

Can't Red Dragon just use what emmel is using? eternal september or
something? That way you will never miss each others posts.

My provider has two different newsservers to choose from, so even if
they can the binary one I can still read both your posts :-)

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-25 16:15:10 UTC
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Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Anna Chenoweth
On a different topic, sorry if this post comes out odd. My reader
won't let
me into the group feed and I'm using Google currently.
Yup, the formatting is horribly. And you've spilled your real name, it
seems. Anything I can do to help with your reader?
Somehow I don't think Red Dragon intended to post her name and e-mail
address using Google groups.
In the days of Deja you could, by replying to a challenge per e-mail,
remove posts from their usenet archive. I did it once on AGC with a post
I regretted (and erased from usenet history).
Google doesn't honour cancel messages, do they? I think I remember
reading somewhere that you can tell them to remove posts from their
archive, though.
Post by Neo
But I don't think emmel can remove his post. Unless invalid.invalid is
your real domain!
I can always post cancels. And I'm pretty sure invalid.invalid is an
invalid domain...
Post by Neo
Can't Red Dragon just use what emmel is using? eternal september or
something? That way you will never miss each others posts.
I was thinking something along those lines.
Post by Neo
My provider has two different newsservers to choose from, so even if
they can the binary one I can still read both your posts :-)
One of the few ones that still offer the service... I'm so happy I have
eternal-september now. (Is that only me or does that last sentence sound
like something a little child would say?)
Red Dragon
2009-09-25 22:21:29 UTC
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Post by emmel
Post by Anna Chenoweth
<ker-snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
It's too bad there isn't a trick for writing like there is for drawings.
Holding a drawing up to a mirror will immediately show me all it's flaws
I couldn't see at the time of being immersed in it. This can actually be
a bit too harsh of a critic though...
Well, when it comes to my drawing it's enough to start at the top left
and then continue to the right bottom. Anyway: Have you mentioned
drawing before? I have a faint memory you did and you didn't want to
show any of what you have done. Or is my memory playing tricks on me
again?
I might having mentioned it, but most of what I've done is for school,
so it's
a bit boring. I learned from having to meet assignments that doing
art for
other people makes me lose my love of doing it.
Ah, that's sad.
Post by Anna Chenoweth
On a different topic, sorry if this post comes out odd. My reader
won't let
me into the group feed and I'm using Google currently.
Yup, the formatting is horribly. And you've spilled your real name, it
seems. Anything I can do to help with your reader?
There, fixed it. Sheesh.

As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by. One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.

The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
Red Dragon
2009-09-26 06:12:00 UTC
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Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Anna Chenoweth
<ker-snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
It's too bad there isn't a trick for writing like there is for drawings.
Holding a drawing up to a mirror will immediately show me all it's flaws
I couldn't see at the time of being immersed in it. This can actually be
a bit too harsh of a critic though...
Well, when it comes to my drawing it's enough to start at the top left
and then continue to the right bottom. Anyway: Have you mentioned
drawing before? I have a faint memory you did and you didn't want to
show any of what you have done. Or is my memory playing tricks on me
again?
I might having mentioned it, but most of what I've done is for school,
so it's
a bit boring. I learned from having to meet assignments that doing
art for
other people makes me lose my love of doing it.
Ah, that's sad.
Post by Anna Chenoweth
On a different topic, sorry if this post comes out odd. My reader
won't let
me into the group feed and I'm using Google currently.
Yup, the formatting is horribly. And you've spilled your real name, it
seems. Anything I can do to help with your reader?
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?

One
Post by Red Dragon
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
emmel
2009-09-26 07:12:29 UTC
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Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Yup, the formatting is horribly. And you've spilled your real name, it
seems. Anything I can do to help with your reader?
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
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Red Dragon
2009-09-26 15:43:09 UTC
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Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Yup, the formatting is horribly. And you've spilled your real name, it
seems. Anything I can do to help with your reader?
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Hmm, I'll have to test the limits of that some day...
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
I'm a little surprised I haven't had some sort of hint slip as of yet.

But I'm still a bit miffed that Google groups didn't have any sort of
email masking (that email address actually makes it to me. Hi spam!), so
I think I'll keep that info to myself for now.

Can't have too much mystery lifted all at once.
emmel
2009-09-27 09:18:40 UTC
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Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Hmm, I'll have to test the limits of that some day...
Those are fairly way to find, although there is a soft limit labelled
'not in the mood to bother'. ;-)
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
I'm a little surprised I haven't had some sort of hint slip as of yet.
I guess using a nick like yours does wonders to stay in character.
'emmel' isn't so much a nick as an acquired name for me. I actually reac
to being called that IRL.
Post by Red Dragon
But I'm still a bit miffed that Google groups didn't have any sort of
email masking (that email address actually makes it to me. Hi spam!), so
I think I'll keep that info to myself for now.
Interesting enough ever since I started to obfuscate my email address,
the spam levels started to drop. I only get a hand full a week these
days, sometimes even less. Also, my other email addresses seem to
collect none at all, include my name bound, quite liberally spread
(whenever I need one for official stuff) one.
Post by Red Dragon
Can't have too much mystery lifted all at once.
Oh, come on. You can tell us. Nobody else is listening, after all. :-)
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Red Dragon
2009-09-27 16:45:37 UTC
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Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Hmm, I'll have to test the limits of that some day...
Those are fairly way to find, although there is a soft limit labelled
'not in the mood to bother'. ;-)
Indeed. *goes for nap*
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
I'm a little surprised I haven't had some sort of hint slip as of yet.
I guess using a nick like yours does wonders to stay in character.
'emmel' isn't so much a nick as an acquired name for me. I actually reac
to being called that IRL.
I'm sure this has been asked, but how do you pronounce 'emmel'?
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
But I'm still a bit miffed that Google groups didn't have any sort of
email masking (that email address actually makes it to me. Hi spam!), so
I think I'll keep that info to myself for now.
Interesting enough ever since I started to obfuscate my email address,
the spam levels started to drop. I only get a hand full a week these
days, sometimes even less. Also, my other email addresses seem to
collect none at all, include my name bound, quite liberally spread
(whenever I need one for official stuff) one.
Yeah, I was just hoping to have a pure one for once, since that bell
can't be un-rung once it out there, so to speak. Oh well.
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Can't have too much mystery lifted all at once.
Oh, come on. You can tell us. Nobody else is listening, after all. :-)
That reminds me of a story that I believe is Chinese in origin called
"The Four Knows."

"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."

Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
emmel
2009-09-28 08:35:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Hmm, I'll have to test the limits of that some day...
Those are fairly way to find, although there is a soft limit labelled
'not in the mood to bother'. ;-)
Indeed. *goes for nap*
Just... Try not to snore too much. The burn marks are hard to remove.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
I'm a little surprised I haven't had some sort of hint slip as of yet.
I guess using a nick like yours does wonders to stay in character.
'emmel' isn't so much a nick as an acquired name for me. I actually reac
to being called that IRL.
I'm sure this has been asked, but how do you pronounce 'emmel'?
[ˈemel] in IPA (I think). It's pretty much as if you say M and L in fast
succession.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
But I'm still a bit miffed that Google groups didn't have any sort of
email masking (that email address actually makes it to me. Hi spam!), so
I think I'll keep that info to myself for now.
Interesting enough ever since I started to obfuscate my email address,
the spam levels started to drop. I only get a hand full a week these
days, sometimes even less. Also, my other email addresses seem to
collect none at all, include my name bound, quite liberally spread
(whenever I need one for official stuff) one.
Yeah, I was just hoping to have a pure one for once, since that bell
can't be un-rung once it out there, so to speak. Oh well.
::shrugs::
I have two that qualify as pure... Want one? ;-)
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Can't have too much mystery lifted all at once.
Oh, come on. You can tell us. Nobody else is listening, after all. :-)
That reminds me of a story that I believe is Chinese in origin called
"The Four Knows."
"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
So what's the story? Share!
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
--
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Neo
2009-09-28 22:56:37 UTC
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<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
It would be unwise not to listen to a big red dragon with talons and
everything!
Post by emmel
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
I am not *asking* you to enjoy it. Just open the bloody door!

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
Red Dragon
2009-09-29 15:50:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
It would be unwise not to listen to a big red dragon with talons and
everything!
Not only that, but you should probably smile politely and nod.
Just to be safe.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
I am not *asking* you to enjoy it. Just open the bloody door!
Neo
Ah, caught between me and the carpet.
emmel
2009-09-29 17:49:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
It would be unwise not to listen to a big red dragon with talons and
everything!
Not only that, but you should probably smile politely and nod.
Just to be safe.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
I am not *asking* you to enjoy it. Just open the bloody door!
Neo
Ah, caught between me and the carpet.
::sits back and enjoys the show::
--
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Neo
2009-10-01 15:42:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
It would be unwise not to listen to a big red dragon with talons and
everything!
Not only that, but you should probably smile politely and nod.
Just to be safe.
How about I just run in circles screaming and shouting?
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
I am not *asking* you to enjoy it. Just open the bloody door!
Neo
Ah, caught between me and the carpet.
Look! A three-headed monkey!

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
Red Dragon
2009-09-29 15:46:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Hmm, I'll have to test the limits of that some day...
Those are fairly way to find, although there is a soft limit labelled
'not in the mood to bother'. ;-)
Indeed. *goes for nap*
Just... Try not to snore too much. The burn marks are hard to remove.
Burn marks are easy to remove, just not without removing anything else.
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
I'm a little surprised I haven't had some sort of hint slip as of yet.
I guess using a nick like yours does wonders to stay in character.
'emmel' isn't so much a nick as an acquired name for me. I actually reac
to being called that IRL.
I'm sure this has been asked, but how do you pronounce 'emmel'?
[ˈemel] in IPA (I think). It's pretty much as if you say M and L in fast
succession.
That's what I suspected. And now this conversation seems incredibly
familiar.
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
But I'm still a bit miffed that Google groups didn't have any sort of
email masking (that email address actually makes it to me. Hi spam!), so
I think I'll keep that info to myself for now.
Interesting enough ever since I started to obfuscate my email address,
the spam levels started to drop. I only get a hand full a week these
days, sometimes even less. Also, my other email addresses seem to
collect none at all, include my name bound, quite liberally spread
(whenever I need one for official stuff) one.
Yeah, I was just hoping to have a pure one for once, since that bell
can't be un-rung once it out there, so to speak. Oh well.
I have two that qualify as pure... Want one? ;-)
That sounds like a recipe for getting emails I can't understand. :P
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Can't have too much mystery lifted all at once.
Oh, come on. You can tell us. Nobody else is listening, after all. :-)
That reminds me of a story that I believe is Chinese in origin called
"The Four Knows."
"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
So what's the story? Share!
It's highly amorphous. The situation and people are always different.
And I'm not a good story-teller.

The story is about a influential person (government official, Confucius,
etc.)
that is approached in the evening by an acquaintance offering a bribe.
This bribe is usually for putting a good word in with someone powerful.

In any version, the bribe is refused. The offerer tries to justify it
by stating 'it's dark, nobody will know.' This is countered with the
line above.

"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
Grr. Rawr.
emmel
2009-09-29 17:16:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Hmm, I'll have to test the limits of that some day...
Those are fairly way to find, although there is a soft limit labelled
'not in the mood to bother'. ;-)
Indeed. *goes for nap*
Just... Try not to snore too much. The burn marks are hard to remove.
Burn marks are easy to remove, just not without removing anything else.
That's the problem. Hard to replace, some of the stuff.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
I'm a little surprised I haven't had some sort of hint slip as of yet.
I guess using a nick like yours does wonders to stay in character.
'emmel' isn't so much a nick as an acquired name for me. I actually reac
to being called that IRL.
I'm sure this has been asked, but how do you pronounce 'emmel'?
[ˈemel] in IPA (I think). It's pretty much as if you say M and L in fast
succession.
That's what I suspected. And now this conversation seems incredibly
familiar.
Uh, it does? How so?
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
But I'm still a bit miffed that Google groups didn't have any sort of
email masking (that email address actually makes it to me. Hi spam!), so
I think I'll keep that info to myself for now.
Interesting enough ever since I started to obfuscate my email address,
the spam levels started to drop. I only get a hand full a week these
days, sometimes even less. Also, my other email addresses seem to
collect none at all, include my name bound, quite liberally spread
(whenever I need one for official stuff) one.
Yeah, I was just hoping to have a pure one for once, since that bell
can't be un-rung once it out there, so to speak. Oh well.
I have two that qualify as pure... Want one? ;-)
That sounds like a recipe for getting emails I can't understand. :P
My gmail one doesn't receive anything, the other one just stuff from
wordpress.com (in English).
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Can't have too much mystery lifted all at once.
Oh, come on. You can tell us. Nobody else is listening, after all. :-)
That reminds me of a story that I believe is Chinese in origin called
"The Four Knows."
"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
So what's the story? Share!
It's highly amorphous. The situation and people are always different.
And I'm not a good story-teller.
Just try. It's all about practice, you know.
Post by Red Dragon
The story is about a influential person (government official, Confucius,
etc.)
that is approached in the evening by an acquaintance offering a bribe.
This bribe is usually for putting a good word in with someone powerful.
In any version, the bribe is refused. The offerer tries to justify it
by stating 'it's dark, nobody will know.' This is countered with the
line above.
"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
Ah. See? Wasn't that bad, was it?
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
Grr. Rawr.
All right, maybe we cannot ignore you after all. (The burn marks *are* a
dead giveaway, you know.)
--
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(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

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Red Dragon
2009-09-30 15:42:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Hmm, I'll have to test the limits of that some day...
Those are fairly way to find, although there is a soft limit labelled
'not in the mood to bother'. ;-)
Indeed. *goes for nap*
Just... Try not to snore too much. The burn marks are hard to remove.
Burn marks are easy to remove, just not without removing anything else.
That's the problem. Hard to replace, some of the stuff.
Like the lurkers?
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
I'm a little surprised I haven't had some sort of hint slip as of yet.
I guess using a nick like yours does wonders to stay in character.
'emmel' isn't so much a nick as an acquired name for me. I actually reac
to being called that IRL.
I'm sure this has been asked, but how do you pronounce 'emmel'?
[ˈemel] in IPA (I think). It's pretty much as if you say M and L in fast
succession.
That's what I suspected. And now this conversation seems incredibly
familiar.
Uh, it does? How so?
I just seem to remember a brief exchange like this when someone asked
you how you pronounce your name.
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
But I'm still a bit miffed that Google groups didn't have any sort of
email masking (that email address actually makes it to me. Hi spam!), so
I think I'll keep that info to myself for now.
Interesting enough ever since I started to obfuscate my email address,
the spam levels started to drop. I only get a hand full a week these
days, sometimes even less. Also, my other email addresses seem to
collect none at all, include my name bound, quite liberally spread
(whenever I need one for official stuff) one.
Yeah, I was just hoping to have a pure one for once, since that bell
can't be un-rung once it out there, so to speak. Oh well.
I have two that qualify as pure... Want one? ;-)
That sounds like a recipe for getting emails I can't understand. :P
My gmail one doesn't receive anything, the other one just stuff from
wordpress.com (in English).
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Can't have too much mystery lifted all at once.
Oh, come on. You can tell us. Nobody else is listening, after all. :-)
That reminds me of a story that I believe is Chinese in origin called
"The Four Knows."
"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
So what's the story? Share!
It's highly amorphous. The situation and people are always different.
And I'm not a good story-teller.
Just try. It's all about practice, you know.
Post by Red Dragon
The story is about a influential person (government official, Confucius,
etc.)
that is approached in the evening by an acquaintance offering a bribe.
This bribe is usually for putting a good word in with someone powerful.
In any version, the bribe is refused. The offerer tries to justify it
by stating 'it's dark, nobody will know.' This is countered with the
line above.
"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
Ah. See? Wasn't that bad, was it?
It was the description of a story, rather than a story.
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
Grr. Rawr.
All right, maybe we cannot ignore you after all. (The burn marks *are* a
dead giveaway, you know.)
Yep. They're dead alright.
emmel
2009-09-30 16:30:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by.
Not, _not_ actually known by. Geez, how did my typing skills get WORSE
after that class?
Never mind, I just put my brain into auto correction mode.
Hmm, I'll have to test the limits of that some day...
Those are fairly way to find, although there is a soft limit labelled
'not in the mood to bother'. ;-)
Indeed. *goes for nap*
Just... Try not to snore too much. The burn marks are hard to remove.
Burn marks are easy to remove, just not without removing anything else.
That's the problem. Hard to replace, some of the stuff.
Like the lurkers?
Like the building-fused concrete floor.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Red Dragon
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
So, does that actually apply to your first and last name, or just the
latter one? Being curious here...
I'm a little surprised I haven't had some sort of hint slip as of yet.
I guess using a nick like yours does wonders to stay in character.
'emmel' isn't so much a nick as an acquired name for me. I actually reac
to being called that IRL.
I'm sure this has been asked, but how do you pronounce 'emmel'?
[ˈemel] in IPA (I think). It's pretty much as if you say M and L in fast
succession.
That's what I suspected. And now this conversation seems incredibly
familiar.
Uh, it does? How so?
I just seem to remember a brief exchange like this when someone asked
you how you pronounce your name.
Maybe it was you ;-)
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Can't have too much mystery lifted all at once.
Oh, come on. You can tell us. Nobody else is listening, after all. :-)
That reminds me of a story that I believe is Chinese in origin called
"The Four Knows."
"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
So what's the story? Share!
It's highly amorphous. The situation and people are always different.
And I'm not a good story-teller.
Just try. It's all about practice, you know.
Post by Red Dragon
The story is about a influential person (government official, Confucius,
etc.)
that is approached in the evening by an acquaintance offering a bribe.
This bribe is usually for putting a good word in with someone powerful.
In any version, the bribe is refused. The offerer tries to justify it
by stating 'it's dark, nobody will know.' This is countered with the
line above.
"I will know; you will know; the earth will know; heaven will know."
Ah. See? Wasn't that bad, was it?
It was the description of a story, rather than a story.
Works for me.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Besides, are you saying you and Neo don't listen to me?
*pictures herself as a nagging harpy* :D
I said 'nobody else', but if you like, I'm pretty sure we *can* ignore
you. Although it wouldn't be fun.
Grr. Rawr.
All right, maybe we cannot ignore you after all. (The burn marks *are* a
dead giveaway, you know.)
Yep. They're dead alright.
Exactly.
--
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emmel
2009-09-26 07:10:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Anna Chenoweth
On a different topic, sorry if this post comes out odd. My reader
won't let
me into the group feed and I'm using Google currently.
Yup, the formatting is horribly. And you've spilled your real name, it
seems. Anything I can do to help with your reader?
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
Ah, glad to see /you/ made it back.
Post by Red Dragon
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by. One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
Some people just get lucky, I guess.
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Neo
2009-09-26 17:38:43 UTC
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Red Dragon wrote:
<snip>
Post by Red Dragon
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by. One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
Welcome to InSaNiTy!!!!1!

I am afraid we don't have a straight jacket your size so you will just
have to restrain yourself while you are here ;-)

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-27 09:46:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by Red Dragon
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by. One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
Welcome to InSaNiTy!!!!1!
I am afraid we don't have a straight jacket your size so you will just
have to restrain yourself while you are here ;-)
I might have some steel ropes lying around. And no, you don't want to
know. Seriously.
--
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(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

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Red Dragon
2009-09-27 16:50:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by Red Dragon
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by. One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
Welcome to InSaNiTy!!!!1!
I am afraid we don't have a straight jacket your size so you will just
have to restrain yourself while you are here ;-)
Restrain? Pffft! Who restrains themselves on the internet?
Post by emmel
I might have some steel ropes lying around. And no, you don't want to
know. Seriously.
But, but... I *need* to know!

And if it's not greater than 2-inch diameter, it's not going to be very
useful.
emmel
2009-09-28 08:45:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by Red Dragon
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by. One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
Welcome to InSaNiTy!!!!1!
I am afraid we don't have a straight jacket your size so you will just
have to restrain yourself while you are here ;-)
Restrain? Pffft! Who restrains themselves on the internet?
That's exactly why we used to have straight jackets.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
I might have some steel ropes lying around. And no, you don't want to
know. Seriously.
But, but... I *need* to know!
Well, it was one of those things that sounded like a good idea at the
time... You *don't* want to know.
Post by Red Dragon
And if it's not greater than 2-inch diameter, it's not going to be very
useful.
2" is pretty heavy stuff... (You can break those?!) But actually they
are more like 10cm.
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Red Dragon
2009-09-29 15:48:13 UTC
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Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by Red Dragon
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by. One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
Welcome to InSaNiTy!!!!1!
I am afraid we don't have a straight jacket your size so you will just
have to restrain yourself while you are here ;-)
Restrain? Pffft! Who restrains themselves on the internet?
That's exactly why we used to have straight jackets.
But we don't! Not in my size anyway...
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
I might have some steel ropes lying around. And no, you don't want to
know. Seriously.
But, but... I *need* to know!
Well, it was one of those things that sounded like a good idea at the
time... You *don't* want to know.
I think you just can't remember. :D
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
And if it's not greater than 2-inch diameter, it's not going to be very
useful.
2" is pretty heavy stuff... (You can break those?!) But actually they
are more like 10cm.
It's not fraying, is it? That's terribly uncomfortable.
emmel
2009-09-29 17:41:42 UTC
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Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by Red Dragon
There, fixed it. Sheesh.
As for the name, it's similar, but what I'm actually know by. One
wouldn't find entries that had anything to do with me if they searched
on it.
The internet doesn't really know my actual name.
Welcome to InSaNiTy!!!!1!
I am afraid we don't have a straight jacket your size so you will just
have to restrain yourself while you are here ;-)
Restrain? Pffft! Who restrains themselves on the internet?
That's exactly why we used to have straight jackets.
But we don't! Not in my size anyway...
Not anymore.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
I might have some steel ropes lying around. And no, you don't want to
know. Seriously.
But, but... I *need* to know!
Well, it was one of those things that sounded like a good idea at the
time... You *don't* want to know.
I think you just can't remember. :D
I do my very best.
Post by Red Dragon
Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
And if it's not greater than 2-inch diameter, it's not going to be very
useful.
2" is pretty heavy stuff... (You can break those?!) But actually they
are more like 10cm.
It's not fraying, is it? That's terribly uncomfortable.
Nope, everything properly capped.
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Neo
2009-09-20 12:25:01 UTC
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Post by Neo
Post by emmel
OK, this is the third Aya number one, I think. At least the third I
posted. Hopefully that one will give me the right angle to write what I
want to write.
Anyway, I'd appreciate any comments. Actually, I'd primarily
appreciate comments on the content rather than my typos... (I hope there
aren't too many in there to make it unreadable.) I need to know if that
works out, or if I'm heading into the totally wrong direction.
*****
One should think that all wound heal with time, but some never seem
to. Not really. Not the big ones. Not the ones in your soul. And so
I'm still having nights like this once in a while, even after all
those years. Restless nights. Nights where I'd wake up after an hour
or two and just can't ease my mind back into sleep. Nights where my
thoughts just keep running in circles, always returning to the one
thing I want to never remember. And even though I have slept only
maybe five hours those last two days, I know I won't find any rest
before dusk.
Next to me, I can hear and feel Kay breathing slowly and
deeply, my little cousin, her chest rising and sinking with the
peaceful rhythm of a world without pain. It's almost enviable. When
she's having a bad night, she just slips into my bed, snuggles up to
me and in a matter of seconds she will be fast asleep. Still, better
this way than the other way round. A good night's rest is the least
she deserves, after all she has been through. Being just a baby back
then never made it easier on her, just harder.
Poor, little brave Kay. So infinitely stronger than me in so
many ways. And yet she picks me as her role model. What was she only
thinking? Anyway, she's grounded for the next two weeks. If nothing
else, it will keep her out of trouble, but that's the end of the
story. Let's start at the beginning.
Somehow I always mistake 'Kay' for Aya's father. Maybe we should ask Red
Dragon if it could be a male name in US English.
Yeah, 'Kai' definitely is a male name, but then 'Kay' is pronounced
differently ('kɑi' in contrast to 'keɪ', I think) and to be frank it's
just a shorthand for Kaitelij. Aya's father is Forrester (Kendri).
In Dutch we have 'Kees' as a very common name. In a television series it
is also a female name. But to me it is mainly a male name.

Kees is pronounced like 'case'.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I have been thinking lately about Laiva and Aya (we have had these
discussions before). I came to think they must be linked to your
personal life somehow. Laiva cast away from home after an argument. And
It's a long time since I've created that character, and indeed the basic
outline of the story. I'm not sure how much of my life went into this
one.
If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't have to worry about that. Interesting enough, I
only seem to be able to write in a rather calm (and idle) state of mind.
Those emotions may be similar to mine, but in the end they come from the
character's situation.
Post by Neo
At least if you are not working or moving into a new house or something.
When work needs to be done, writing stories distracts from that. Though
work might turn out productive in finding new plot lines!
Well, I have a few lined up, I just have to deal with the details and
bash them out. Things tend to get changed around until they are fixed in
some way, making it hard to built upon the story past.
As long as you keep writing, no harm will come to you I think.

It seems like a great emotional outlet to me!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)
No, really, that's fine. Besides, knowing what you think about it helps.
I have a very one sided view of them since, as I have said, am more or
less immersed into them. I tend to see those characters as themselves,
not mediated through what I write. I know how they tick.
I wanted to say (though it doesn't seem needed anymore), that if you
think you are depressed and you can't deal with it anymore.. There is
always the General Practitioner who can direct you to a psychiatrist who
can give you anti-depressants which will work in a couple of weeks up
till two months.

The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-22 08:28:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I have been thinking lately about Laiva and Aya (we have had these
discussions before). I came to think they must be linked to your
personal life somehow. Laiva cast away from home after an argument. And
It's a long time since I've created that character, and indeed the basic
outline of the story. I'm not sure how much of my life went into this
one.
If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Not really. Aya acts all tough, but in truth Laiva is much tougher than
her. And Mynor... Well, I don't discuss him. He's... different.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
You know, I don't think I would mind that much. Aya isn't the person you
easily discriminate (more than once, anyway), and there aren't any
actual downsides beside that, IMHO. I'll be off getting my flame
protection vest then...
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't have to worry about that. Interesting enough, I
only seem to be able to write in a rather calm (and idle) state of mind.
Those emotions may be similar to mine, but in the end they come from the
character's situation.
Post by Neo
At least if you are not working or moving into a new house or something.
When work needs to be done, writing stories distracts from that. Though
work might turn out productive in finding new plot lines!
Well, I have a few lined up, I just have to deal with the details and
bash them out. Things tend to get changed around until they are fixed in
some way, making it hard to built upon the story past.
As long as you keep writing, no harm will come to you I think.
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? It's become difficult of late.
Very difficult.
Post by Neo
It seems like a great emotional outlet to me!
It's also unfinished business. Business I intend to bloody finish!
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)
No, really, that's fine. Besides, knowing what you think about it helps.
I have a very one sided view of them since, as I have said, am more or
less immersed into them. I tend to see those characters as themselves,
not mediated through what I write. I know how they tick.
I wanted to say (though it doesn't seem needed anymore), that if you
think you are depressed and you can't deal with it anymore.. There is
always the General Practitioner who can direct you to a psychiatrist who
can give you anti-depressants which will work in a couple of weeks up
till two months.
The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.
Unfortunately, doctors aren't really an option for me. Don't try to
understand that; I'd rather not talk about it.
--
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Neo
2009-09-22 18:14:34 UTC
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Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I have been thinking lately about Laiva and Aya (we have had these
discussions before). I came to think they must be linked to your
personal life somehow. Laiva cast away from home after an argument. And
It's a long time since I've created that character, and indeed the basic
outline of the story. I'm not sure how much of my life went into this
one.
If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Not really. Aya acts all tough, but in truth Laiva is much tougher than
her. And Mynor... Well, I don't discuss him. He's... different.
Aya fights well. Better than Laiva. Less lethal though.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
You know, I don't think I would mind that much. Aya isn't the person you
easily discriminate (more than once, anyway), and there aren't any
actual downsides beside that, IMHO. I'll be off getting my flame
protection vest then...
I am not flaming you for that. Besides, if the world population was made
up entirely of females, we wouldn't have so much war and greed.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't have to worry about that. Interesting enough, I
only seem to be able to write in a rather calm (and idle) state of mind.
Those emotions may be similar to mine, but in the end they come from the
character's situation.
Post by Neo
At least if you are not working or moving into a new house or something.
When work needs to be done, writing stories distracts from that. Though
work might turn out productive in finding new plot lines!
Well, I have a few lined up, I just have to deal with the details and
bash them out. Things tend to get changed around until they are fixed in
some way, making it hard to built upon the story past.
As long as you keep writing, no harm will come to you I think.
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? It's become difficult of late.
Very difficult.
But it is still an outlet.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
It seems like a great emotional outlet to me!
It's also unfinished business. Business I intend to bloody finish!
We have discussed this before, but when I stopped learning at the
university, I also had to force myself to play computer games.

When I still studied I couldn't find myself enough time to play games,
yet I did it a lot more than afterwards!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)
No, really, that's fine. Besides, knowing what you think about it helps.
I have a very one sided view of them since, as I have said, am more or
less immersed into them. I tend to see those characters as themselves,
not mediated through what I write. I know how they tick.
I wanted to say (though it doesn't seem needed anymore), that if you
think you are depressed and you can't deal with it anymore.. There is
always the General Practitioner who can direct you to a psychiatrist who
can give you anti-depressants which will work in a couple of weeks up
till two months.
The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.
Unfortunately, doctors aren't really an option for me. Don't try to
understand that; I'd rather not talk about it.
You are an alien. ?

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-22 19:22:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I have been thinking lately about Laiva and Aya (we have had these
discussions before). I came to think they must be linked to your
personal life somehow. Laiva cast away from home after an argument. And
It's a long time since I've created that character, and indeed the basic
outline of the story. I'm not sure how much of my life went into this
one.
If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Not really. Aya acts all tough, but in truth Laiva is much tougher than
her. And Mynor... Well, I don't discuss him. He's... different.
Aya fights well. Better than Laiva. Less lethal though.
She also is a good eight years older and had some proper training.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
You know, I don't think I would mind that much. Aya isn't the person you
easily discriminate (more than once, anyway), and there aren't any
actual downsides beside that, IMHO. I'll be off getting my flame
protection vest then...
I am not flaming you for that. Besides, if the world population was made
up entirely of females, we wouldn't have so much war and greed.
We all start out as females anyway - it's just that some of us happen to
have a crippled chromosome that removes us from the ideal form ;-)
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't have to worry about that. Interesting enough, I
only seem to be able to write in a rather calm (and idle) state of mind.
Those emotions may be similar to mine, but in the end they come from the
character's situation.
Post by Neo
At least if you are not working or moving into a new house or something.
When work needs to be done, writing stories distracts from that. Though
work might turn out productive in finding new plot lines!
Well, I have a few lined up, I just have to deal with the details and
bash them out. Things tend to get changed around until they are fixed in
some way, making it hard to built upon the story past.
As long as you keep writing, no harm will come to you I think.
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? It's become difficult of late.
Very difficult.
But it is still an outlet.
It's eating me when I can't.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
It seems like a great emotional outlet to me!
It's also unfinished business. Business I intend to bloody finish!
We have discussed this before, but when I stopped learning at the
university, I also had to force myself to play computer games.
When I still studied I couldn't find myself enough time to play games,
yet I did it a lot more than afterwards!
Odd, isn't it?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)
No, really, that's fine. Besides, knowing what you think about it helps.
I have a very one sided view of them since, as I have said, am more or
less immersed into them. I tend to see those characters as themselves,
not mediated through what I write. I know how they tick.
I wanted to say (though it doesn't seem needed anymore), that if you
think you are depressed and you can't deal with it anymore.. There is
always the General Practitioner who can direct you to a psychiatrist who
can give you anti-depressants which will work in a couple of weeks up
till two months.
The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.
Unfortunately, doctors aren't really an option for me. Don't try to
understand that; I'd rather not talk about it.
You are an alien. ?
Mu-lam'da, didn't I mention that? Seriously, though, it's a personal
problem. Or a problem with a person at any rate.
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Neo
2009-09-25 12:46:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I have been thinking lately about Laiva and Aya (we have had these
discussions before). I came to think they must be linked to your
personal life somehow. Laiva cast away from home after an argument. And
It's a long time since I've created that character, and indeed the basic
outline of the story. I'm not sure how much of my life went into this
one.
If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Not really. Aya acts all tough, but in truth Laiva is much tougher than
her. And Mynor... Well, I don't discuss him. He's... different.
Aya fights well. Better than Laiva. Less lethal though.
She also is a good eight years older and had some proper training.
But she can't create a flame out of the palm of her hands.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
You know, I don't think I would mind that much. Aya isn't the person you
easily discriminate (more than once, anyway), and there aren't any
actual downsides beside that, IMHO. I'll be off getting my flame
protection vest then...
I am not flaming you for that. Besides, if the world population was made
up entirely of females, we wouldn't have so much war and greed.
We all start out as females anyway - it's just that some of us happen to
have a crippled chromosome that removes us from the ideal form ;-)
Yeah, seems unfair that we don't have those ideal forms!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
What I mean is that you might want to speed up writing their adventures
before you life gets inside a slower current and you can't remember the
'pain' of Laiva and Aya anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't have to worry about that. Interesting enough, I
only seem to be able to write in a rather calm (and idle) state of mind.
Those emotions may be similar to mine, but in the end they come from the
character's situation.
Post by Neo
At least if you are not working or moving into a new house or something.
When work needs to be done, writing stories distracts from that. Though
work might turn out productive in finding new plot lines!
Well, I have a few lined up, I just have to deal with the details and
bash them out. Things tend to get changed around until they are fixed in
some way, making it hard to built upon the story past.
As long as you keep writing, no harm will come to you I think.
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? It's become difficult of late.
Very difficult.
But it is still an outlet.
It's eating me when I can't.
You tell me when you solve this problem. I'll tell you when I do.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
It seems like a great emotional outlet to me!
It's also unfinished business. Business I intend to bloody finish!
We have discussed this before, but when I stopped learning at the
university, I also had to force myself to play computer games.
When I still studied I couldn't find myself enough time to play games,
yet I did it a lot more than afterwards!
Odd, isn't it?
Most people think that being on disability welfare is great. But the
thing is that most disabled people can't wait till the day is over.

Generally this involved lots of coffee and nicotine.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Sorry for psychoanalysing your stories. But you _did_ ask for comments :-)
No, really, that's fine. Besides, knowing what you think about it helps.
I have a very one sided view of them since, as I have said, am more or
less immersed into them. I tend to see those characters as themselves,
not mediated through what I write. I know how they tick.
I wanted to say (though it doesn't seem needed anymore), that if you
think you are depressed and you can't deal with it anymore.. There is
always the General Practitioner who can direct you to a psychiatrist who
can give you anti-depressants which will work in a couple of weeks up
till two months.
The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.
Unfortunately, doctors aren't really an option for me. Don't try to
understand that; I'd rather not talk about it.
You are an alien. ?
Mu-lam'da, didn't I mention that? Seriously, though, it's a personal
problem. Or a problem with a person at any rate.
Hate that person is my advice. And break off all contact with that
person. After a couple of years the hate will get less and you have
other uses for your emotions than hating that person.

Meeting that person can mess it all up however.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-25 13:28:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Not really. Aya acts all tough, but in truth Laiva is much tougher than
her. And Mynor... Well, I don't discuss him. He's... different.
Aya fights well. Better than Laiva. Less lethal though.
She also is a good eight years older and had some proper training.
But she can't create a flame out of the palm of her hands.
That remains to be seen. She is more of a hands-on person, though.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
You know, I don't think I would mind that much. Aya isn't the person you
easily discriminate (more than once, anyway), and there aren't any
actual downsides beside that, IMHO. I'll be off getting my flame
protection vest then...
I am not flaming you for that. Besides, if the world population was made
up entirely of females, we wouldn't have so much war and greed.
We all start out as females anyway - it's just that some of us happen to
have a crippled chromosome that removes us from the ideal form ;-)
Yeah, seems unfair that we don't have those ideal forms!
Plato must have broken them back then, in the cave.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
As long as you keep writing, no harm will come to you I think.
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? It's become difficult of late.
Very difficult.
But it is still an outlet.
It's eating me when I can't.
You tell me when you solve this problem. I'll tell you when I do.
I'd love to.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
It seems like a great emotional outlet to me!
It's also unfinished business. Business I intend to bloody finish!
We have discussed this before, but when I stopped learning at the
university, I also had to force myself to play computer games.
When I still studied I couldn't find myself enough time to play games,
yet I did it a lot more than afterwards!
Odd, isn't it?
Most people think that being on disability welfare is great. But the
thing is that most disabled people can't wait till the day is over.
Generally this involved lots of coffee and nicotine.
That is extremely unhealthy.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.
Unfortunately, doctors aren't really an option for me. Don't try to
understand that; I'd rather not talk about it.
You are an alien. ?
Mu-lam'da, didn't I mention that? Seriously, though, it's a personal
problem. Or a problem with a person at any rate.
Hate that person is my advice.
Oh I do, unfortunately I do.
Post by Neo
And break off all contact with that person.
Not an option, which is the crux of the matter.
Post by Neo
After a couple of years the hate will get less and you have
other uses for your emotions than hating that person.
Nice theory.
Post by Neo
Meeting that person can mess it all up however.
Oh hell yes.
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Neo
2009-09-25 14:14:58 UTC
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If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Not really. Aya acts all tough, but in truth Laiva is much tougher than
her. And Mynor... Well, I don't discuss him. He's... different.
Aya fights well. Better than Laiva. Less lethal though.
She also is a good eight years older and had some proper training.
But she can't create a flame out of the palm of her hands.
That remains to be seen. She is more of a hands-on person, though.
I mean, Aya doesn't use magic. (Though the does magic without using
magic too).
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Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
You know, I don't think I would mind that much. Aya isn't the person you
easily discriminate (more than once, anyway), and there aren't any
actual downsides beside that, IMHO. I'll be off getting my flame
protection vest then...
I am not flaming you for that. Besides, if the world population was made
up entirely of females, we wouldn't have so much war and greed.
We all start out as females anyway - it's just that some of us happen to
have a crippled chromosome that removes us from the ideal form ;-)
Yeah, seems unfair that we don't have those ideal forms!
Plato must have broken them back then, in the cave.
Plato did what??
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As long as you keep writing, no harm will come to you I think.
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? It's become difficult of late.
Very difficult.
But it is still an outlet.
It's eating me when I can't.
You tell me when you solve this problem. I'll tell you when I do.
I'd love to.
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It seems like a great emotional outlet to me!
It's also unfinished business. Business I intend to bloody finish!
We have discussed this before, but when I stopped learning at the
university, I also had to force myself to play computer games.
When I still studied I couldn't find myself enough time to play games,
yet I did it a lot more than afterwards!
Odd, isn't it?
Most people think that being on disability welfare is great. But the
thing is that most disabled people can't wait till the day is over.
Generally this involved lots of coffee and nicotine.
That is extremely unhealthy.
I haven't talked about the alcohol and valium/sleeping pills yet!
Especially the combination of the two!

It will ruin your life!
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Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.
Unfortunately, doctors aren't really an option for me. Don't try to
understand that; I'd rather not talk about it.
You are an alien. ?
Mu-lam'da, didn't I mention that? Seriously, though, it's a personal
problem. Or a problem with a person at any rate.
Hate that person is my advice.
Oh I do, unfortunately I do.
Post by Neo
And break off all contact with that person.
Not an option, which is the crux of the matter.
Tom Waits has a song where he sings "There are some things in life you
will have no use for".

My advice is, if you don't have a use for it, get rid of it.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
After a couple of years the hate will get less and you have
other uses for your emotions than hating that person.
Nice theory.
It worked for me. Problem is that now that I have seen it work I might
use it on my little sister too. Or even my parents! If I feel hurt or
misunderstood.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Meeting that person can mess it all up however.
Oh hell yes.
Move to another town. Tell no-one your new address. Start a new life.

Don't tell me it isn't possible.

Neo
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Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-25 16:20:44 UTC
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If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Not really. Aya acts all tough, but in truth Laiva is much tougher than
her. And Mynor... Well, I don't discuss him. He's... different.
Aya fights well. Better than Laiva. Less lethal though.
She also is a good eight years older and had some proper training.
But she can't create a flame out of the palm of her hands.
That remains to be seen. She is more of a hands-on person, though.
I mean, Aya doesn't use magic. (Though the does magic without using
magic too).
I know what you mean. And it remains to be seen ;-)
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Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
You know, I don't think I would mind that much. Aya isn't the person you
easily discriminate (more than once, anyway), and there aren't any
actual downsides beside that, IMHO. I'll be off getting my flame
protection vest then...
I am not flaming you for that. Besides, if the world population was made
up entirely of females, we wouldn't have so much war and greed.
We all start out as females anyway - it's just that some of us happen to
have a crippled chromosome that removes us from the ideal form ;-)
Yeah, seems unfair that we don't have those ideal forms!
Plato must have broken them back then, in the cave.
Plato did what??
Well, he had this cave parable or whatever it is called in English.
Shadows on the wall cast by ideal forms... Does that ring a bell?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
When I still studied I couldn't find myself enough time to play games,
yet I did it a lot more than afterwards!
Odd, isn't it?
Most people think that being on disability welfare is great. But the
thing is that most disabled people can't wait till the day is over.
Generally this involved lots of coffee and nicotine.
That is extremely unhealthy.
I haven't talked about the alcohol and valium/sleeping pills yet!
Especially the combination of the two!
It will ruin your life!
Yeah, but nicotine is pretty evil stuff.
Post by Neo
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Post by Neo
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Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.
Unfortunately, doctors aren't really an option for me. Don't try to
understand that; I'd rather not talk about it.
You are an alien. ?
Mu-lam'da, didn't I mention that? Seriously, though, it's a personal
problem. Or a problem with a person at any rate.
Hate that person is my advice.
Oh I do, unfortunately I do.
Post by Neo
And break off all contact with that person.
Not an option, which is the crux of the matter.
Tom Waits has a song where he sings "There are some things in life you
will have no use for".
My advice is, if you don't have a use for it, get rid of it.
I should probably consider getting rid of me...
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Post by emmel
Post by Neo
After a couple of years the hate will get less and you have
other uses for your emotions than hating that person.
Nice theory.
It worked for me. Problem is that now that I have seen it work I might
use it on my little sister too. Or even my parents! If I feel hurt or
misunderstood.
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Meeting that person can mess it all up however.
Oh hell yes.
Move to another town. Tell no-one your new address. Start a new life.
Don't tell me it isn't possible.
Sure, as soon as you tell me how to finance that... I hate to admit it,
but money *does* matter.
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Neo
2009-09-26 17:32:24 UTC
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If you merge Laiva and Mynor you get sometime like Aya of course :-)
Not really. Aya acts all tough, but in truth Laiva is much tougher than
her. And Mynor... Well, I don't discuss him. He's... different.
Aya fights well. Better than Laiva. Less lethal though.
She also is a good eight years older and had some proper training.
But she can't create a flame out of the palm of her hands.
That remains to be seen. She is more of a hands-on person, though.
I mean, Aya doesn't use magic. (Though the does magic without using
magic too).
I know what you mean. And it remains to be seen ;-)
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Aya the opposite. In control of every situation regardless of how severe.
Yeah, she'd pretty much who I'd like to be. So I'm a bit in love with
me? I'm sure that'd make for an interesting psychoanalysis.
Not only that, but you rather be a girl than a boy ;-D
You know, I don't think I would mind that much. Aya isn't the person you
easily discriminate (more than once, anyway), and there aren't any
actual downsides beside that, IMHO. I'll be off getting my flame
protection vest then...
I am not flaming you for that. Besides, if the world population was made
up entirely of females, we wouldn't have so much war and greed.
We all start out as females anyway - it's just that some of us happen to
have a crippled chromosome that removes us from the ideal form ;-)
Yeah, seems unfair that we don't have those ideal forms!
Plato must have broken them back then, in the cave.
Plato did what??
Well, he had this cave parable or whatever it is called in English.
Shadows on the wall cast by ideal forms... Does that ring a bell?
Sounds like some budist parable.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
When I still studied I couldn't find myself enough time to play games,
yet I did it a lot more than afterwards!
Odd, isn't it?
Most people think that being on disability welfare is great. But the
thing is that most disabled people can't wait till the day is over.
Generally this involved lots of coffee and nicotine.
That is extremely unhealthy.
I haven't talked about the alcohol and valium/sleeping pills yet!
Especially the combination of the two!
It will ruin your life!
Yeah, but nicotine is pretty evil stuff.
At least almost every salary allows being addicted to it.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The anti-depressants I have used in life had very acceptable
side-effects.
Unfortunately, doctors aren't really an option for me. Don't try to
understand that; I'd rather not talk about it.
You are an alien. ?
Mu-lam'da, didn't I mention that? Seriously, though, it's a personal
problem. Or a problem with a person at any rate.
Hate that person is my advice.
Oh I do, unfortunately I do.
Post by Neo
And break off all contact with that person.
Not an option, which is the crux of the matter.
Tom Waits has a song where he sings "There are some things in life you
will have no use for".
My advice is, if you don't have a use for it, get rid of it.
I should probably consider getting rid of me...
That is the easy route!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
After a couple of years the hate will get less and you have
other uses for your emotions than hating that person.
Nice theory.
It worked for me. Problem is that now that I have seen it work I might
use it on my little sister too. Or even my parents! If I feel hurt or
misunderstood.
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!

For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.

But I have been considering things from time till time. Who to keep and
who not to keep in my life. And how they relate.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Meeting that person can mess it all up however.
Oh hell yes.
Move to another town. Tell no-one your new address. Start a new life.
Don't tell me it isn't possible.
Sure, as soon as you tell me how to finance that... I hate to admit it,
but money *does* matter.
I would say you need about 2000 euro to move and have everything done
for you.

You might not have wallpaper and you might sleep on the floor; but you
will have an address to receive mail and a sink to clean yourself and
then go job hunting.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-27 09:45:26 UTC
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We all start out as females anyway - it's just that some of us happen to
have a crippled chromosome that removes us from the ideal form ;-)
Yeah, seems unfair that we don't have those ideal forms!
Plato must have broken them back then, in the cave.
Plato did what??
Well, he had this cave parable or whatever it is called in English.
Shadows on the wall cast by ideal forms... Does that ring a bell?
Sounds like some budist parable.
Nope, Plato was no Buddhist (took me some tries to get the spelling of
that one right) as far as I know. Would turn history on its head if that
was the case.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Generally this involved lots of coffee and nicotine.
That is extremely unhealthy.
I haven't talked about the alcohol and valium/sleeping pills yet!
Especially the combination of the two!
It will ruin your life!
Yeah, but nicotine is pretty evil stuff.
At least almost every salary allows being addicted to it.
It starts rewiring your brain after the first cigarette. There seems to
be absolutely no way of resetting that, which makes it actually more
addictive than other run-of-the-mill drugs.
Besides, I simply can't stay the smell of cigarettes, which means it is
implicitly evil. One of the best ways of getting rid of me permanently
is starting to smoke. Yuck.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
And break off all contact with that person.
Not an option, which is the crux of the matter.
Tom Waits has a song where he sings "There are some things in life you
will have no use for".
My advice is, if you don't have a use for it, get rid of it.
I should probably consider getting rid of me...
That is the easy route!
The easy route is getting rid of any inhibitions and let my emotions
take over control. What's the worst case anyway? I might end up in a
nice prison or psychiatric cell... And I think they allow pen and paper
in there. Too bad I have moral problems with killing people...
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
After a couple of years the hate will get less and you have
other uses for your emotions than hating that person.
Nice theory.
It worked for me. Problem is that now that I have seen it work I might
use it on my little sister too. Or even my parents! If I feel hurt or
misunderstood.
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!
For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.
I bet.
Post by Neo
But I have been considering things from time till time. Who to keep and
who not to keep in my life. And how they relate.
Being human sucks.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Meeting that person can mess it all up however.
Oh hell yes.
Move to another town. Tell no-one your new address. Start a new life.
Don't tell me it isn't possible.
Sure, as soon as you tell me how to finance that... I hate to admit it,
but money *does* matter.
I would say you need about 2000 euro to move and have everything done
for you.
You might not have wallpaper and you might sleep on the floor; but you
will have an address to receive mail and a sink to clean yourself and
then go job hunting.
Going job hunting around here... Without any real qualifications... I
might as well spend the money on something worthwhile. Like having a
nice vacation, writing a book and then flinging me off some cliff.
Problem is getting the writing done before running out of money. It *is*
a seriously tempting alternative. And my happy place, if you want to
call it that.
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Neo
2009-09-28 23:08:49 UTC
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We all start out as females anyway - it's just that some of us happen to
have a crippled chromosome that removes us from the ideal form ;-)
Yeah, seems unfair that we don't have those ideal forms!
Plato must have broken them back then, in the cave.
Plato did what??
Well, he had this cave parable or whatever it is called in English.
Shadows on the wall cast by ideal forms... Does that ring a bell?
Sounds like some budist parable.
Nope, Plato was no Buddhist (took me some tries to get the spelling of
that one right) as far as I know. Would turn history on its head if that
was the case.
So Plato was a historian specialized in Buddhism?
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Generally this involved lots of coffee and nicotine.
That is extremely unhealthy.
I haven't talked about the alcohol and valium/sleeping pills yet!
Especially the combination of the two!
It will ruin your life!
Yeah, but nicotine is pretty evil stuff.
At least almost every salary allows being addicted to it.
It starts rewiring your brain after the first cigarette. There seems to
be absolutely no way of resetting that, which makes it actually more
addictive than other run-of-the-mill drugs.
Besides, I simply can't stay the smell of cigarettes, which means it is
implicitly evil. One of the best ways of getting rid of me permanently
is starting to smoke. Yuck.
It happens to be so that I have spend a lot of time around smokers. That
is where the 'action' is in psychiatry. Non smokers tend to be boring
and less talkative than smokers are (mostly complaining about the smoke
too).
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Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
And break off all contact with that person.
Not an option, which is the crux of the matter.
Tom Waits has a song where he sings "There are some things in life you
will have no use for".
My advice is, if you don't have a use for it, get rid of it.
I should probably consider getting rid of me...
That is the easy route!
The easy route is getting rid of any inhibitions and let my emotions
take over control. What's the worst case anyway? I might end up in a
nice prison or psychiatric cell... And I think they allow pen and paper
in there. Too bad I have moral problems with killing people...
I guess you get toilet paper and you can write with your own poo.

If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
After a couple of years the hate will get less and you have
other uses for your emotions than hating that person.
Nice theory.
It worked for me. Problem is that now that I have seen it work I might
use it on my little sister too. Or even my parents! If I feel hurt or
misunderstood.
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!
For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.
I bet.
I tell you the trick in case you wonder. You don't tell 'em. You just
tell everyone else and let them figure it out by themselves.

Hope you will never have to put it to use though. I would say you need
to be pretty desperate if you need to resort to matters as such.
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Post by Neo
But I have been considering things from time till time. Who to keep and
who not to keep in my life. And how they relate.
Being human sucks.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Meeting that person can mess it all up however.
Oh hell yes.
Move to another town. Tell no-one your new address. Start a new life.
Don't tell me it isn't possible.
Sure, as soon as you tell me how to finance that... I hate to admit it,
but money *does* matter.
I would say you need about 2000 euro to move and have everything done
for you.
You might not have wallpaper and you might sleep on the floor; but you
will have an address to receive mail and a sink to clean yourself and
then go job hunting.
Going job hunting around here... Without any real qualifications... I
might as well spend the money on something worthwhile. Like having a
nice vacation, writing a book and then flinging me off some cliff.
Problem is getting the writing done before running out of money. It *is*
a seriously tempting alternative. And my happy place, if you want to
call it that.
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!

Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-09-29 06:24:21 UTC
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Post by Neo
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Post by Neo
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Post by Neo
Yeah, seems unfair that we don't have those ideal forms!
Plato must have broken them back then, in the cave.
Plato did what??
Well, he had this cave parable or whatever it is called in English.
Shadows on the wall cast by ideal forms... Does that ring a bell?
Sounds like some budist parable.
Nope, Plato was no Buddhist (took me some tries to get the spelling of
that one right) as far as I know. Would turn history on its head if that
was the case.
So Plato was a historian specialized in Buddhism?
If I didn't know you were kidding...
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Yeah, but nicotine is pretty evil stuff.
At least almost every salary allows being addicted to it.
It starts rewiring your brain after the first cigarette. There seems to
be absolutely no way of resetting that, which makes it actually more
addictive than other run-of-the-mill drugs.
Besides, I simply can't stay the smell of cigarettes, which means it is
implicitly evil. One of the best ways of getting rid of me permanently
is starting to smoke. Yuck.
It happens to be so that I have spend a lot of time around smokers. That
is where the 'action' is in psychiatry. Non smokers tend to be boring
and less talkative than smokers are (mostly complaining about the smoke
too).
Thanks for the compliment.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
take over control. What's the worst case anyway? I might end up in a
nice prison or psychiatric cell... And I think they allow pen and paper
in there. Too bad I have moral problems with killing people...
I guess you get toilet paper and you can write with your own poo.
If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Oh, come on. There are enough /safe/ options for writing. Even little
children are allowed crayons and paper, for heaven's sake.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!
For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.
I bet.
I tell you the trick in case you wonder. You don't tell 'em. You just
tell everyone else and let them figure it out by themselves.
Oh, that's just totally evil.
Post by Neo
Hope you will never have to put it to use though. I would say you need
to be pretty desperate if you need to resort to matters as such.
I do I hope.
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
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Neo
2009-10-01 16:08:50 UTC
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take over control. What's the worst case anyway? I might end up in a
nice prison or psychiatric cell... And I think they allow pen and paper
in there. Too bad I have moral problems with killing people...
I guess you get toilet paper and you can write with your own poo.
If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Oh, come on. There are enough /safe/ options for writing. Even little
children are allowed crayons and paper, for heaven's sake.
In fact, they don't even allow you to brush your teeth! In fear of you
stabbing the nurses to death with the toothbrush.

And you might eat the crayons. I heard some mental patient in Holland
once ate pages of the bible. So you won't find a bible around on the
closed wards these days anymore.

But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!

Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
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Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!
For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.
I bet.
I tell you the trick in case you wonder. You don't tell 'em. You just
tell everyone else and let them figure it out by themselves.
Oh, that's just totally evil.
Not if the alternative is telling someone: "I will not acknowledge you
existence from this moment on". Somehow that doesn't work IRL.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Hope you will never have to put it to use though. I would say you need
to be pretty desperate if you need to resort to matters as such.
I do I hope.
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-10-01 16:52:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
take over control. What's the worst case anyway? I might end up in a
nice prison or psychiatric cell... And I think they allow pen and paper
in there. Too bad I have moral problems with killing people...
I guess you get toilet paper and you can write with your own poo.
If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Oh, come on. There are enough /safe/ options for writing. Even little
children are allowed crayons and paper, for heaven's sake.
In fact, they don't even allow you to brush your teeth! In fear of you
stabbing the nurses to death with the toothbrush.
Hm... You *are* giving me ideas...
Post by Neo
And you might eat the crayons.
And there's a problem with that why exactly?
Post by Neo
I heard some mental patient in Holland
once ate pages of the bible. So you won't find a bible around on the
closed wards these days anymore.
Probably better anyway. Having to read about the god the great and its
perfect and just world... in a cell... rather not.
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!
For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.
I bet.
I tell you the trick in case you wonder. You don't tell 'em. You just
tell everyone else and let them figure it out by themselves.
Oh, that's just totally evil.
Not if the alternative is telling someone: "I will not acknowledge you
existence from this moment on". Somehow that doesn't work IRL.
It does with *some* people, but I guess not on those you want/need to
get rid of.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Post by Neo
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.
Oh, great, I'll apply for a chairman post in some major global company.
--
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Neo
2009-10-01 17:47:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
take over control. What's the worst case anyway? I might end up in a
nice prison or psychiatric cell... And I think they allow pen and paper
in there. Too bad I have moral problems with killing people...
I guess you get toilet paper and you can write with your own poo.
If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Oh, come on. There are enough /safe/ options for writing. Even little
children are allowed crayons and paper, for heaven's sake.
In fact, they don't even allow you to brush your teeth! In fear of you
stabbing the nurses to death with the toothbrush.
Hm... You *are* giving me ideas...
What is wrong with two fingers stabbing someone alongside each other?

What is wrong with an elbow in the face?
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
And you might eat the crayons.
And there's a problem with that why exactly?
Listen, this is what a psychiatrist once told me.

They let you eat your own poo because you won't get diarrea from eating
your own poo.

If you ate someone elses poo you would get diarrea.

Don't you feel secure with people thinking about your security like
that?

And if you ever forget to flush the toilet because you lived in an
isolation cell for almost a year....
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I heard some mental patient in Holland
once ate pages of the bible. So you won't find a bible around on the
closed wards these days anymore.
Probably better anyway. Having to read about the god the great and its
perfect and just world... in a cell... rather not.
In the cell you get NOTHING! I was talking about the closed ward.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!
For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.
I bet.
I tell you the trick in case you wonder. You don't tell 'em. You just
tell everyone else and let them figure it out by themselves.
Oh, that's just totally evil.
Not if the alternative is telling someone: "I will not acknowledge you
existence from this moment on". Somehow that doesn't work IRL.
It does with *some* people, but I guess not on those you want/need to
get rid of.
Telling them is an invitation for them to say something back. At which
point you will also feel like saying something back.

Trust me, not telling them is the better way.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.
Oh, great, I'll apply for a chairman post in some major global company.
You only need to work enough not to get fired [obref].

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-10-01 17:58:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
take over control. What's the worst case anyway? I might end up in a
nice prison or psychiatric cell... And I think they allow pen and paper
in there. Too bad I have moral problems with killing people...
I guess you get toilet paper and you can write with your own poo.
If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Oh, come on. There are enough /safe/ options for writing. Even little
children are allowed crayons and paper, for heaven's sake.
In fact, they don't even allow you to brush your teeth! In fear of you
stabbing the nurses to death with the toothbrush.
Hm... You *are* giving me ideas...
What is wrong with two fingers stabbing someone alongside each other?
What is wrong with an elbow in the face?
Not messy enough, I guess.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
And you might eat the crayons.
And there's a problem with that why exactly?
Listen, this is what a psychiatrist once told me.
They let you eat your own poo because you won't get diarrea from eating
your own poo.
If you ate someone elses poo you would get diarrea.
Don't you feel secure with people thinking about your security like
that?
And if you ever forget to flush the toilet because you lived in an
isolation cell for almost a year....
Erm... some people are probably born sadists. And inevitably become
doctors...
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I heard some mental patient in Holland
once ate pages of the bible. So you won't find a bible around on the
closed wards these days anymore.
Probably better anyway. Having to read about the god the great and its
perfect and just world... in a cell... rather not.
In the cell you get NOTHING! I was talking about the closed ward.
There's closed and there's closed. I don't like the idea behind the
latter... How *do* they justify something like that?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
I'm not exactly homicidal.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Too bloody easy on them.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!
For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.
I bet.
I tell you the trick in case you wonder. You don't tell 'em. You just
tell everyone else and let them figure it out by themselves.
Oh, that's just totally evil.
Not if the alternative is telling someone: "I will not acknowledge you
existence from this moment on". Somehow that doesn't work IRL.
It does with *some* people, but I guess not on those you want/need to
get rid of.
Telling them is an invitation for them to say something back. At which
point you will also feel like saying something back.
Trust me, not telling them is the better way.
I'd still rather not.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Very funny. [not]
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.
Oh, great, I'll apply for a chairman post in some major global company.
You only need to work enough not to get fired [obref].
I don't think I get that one.
--
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Neo
2009-10-02 15:52:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
<snip>
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
take over control. What's the worst case anyway? I might end up in a
nice prison or psychiatric cell... And I think they allow pen and paper
in there. Too bad I have moral problems with killing people...
I guess you get toilet paper and you can write with your own poo.
If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Oh, come on. There are enough /safe/ options for writing. Even little
children are allowed crayons and paper, for heaven's sake.
In fact, they don't even allow you to brush your teeth! In fear of you
stabbing the nurses to death with the toothbrush.
Hm... You *are* giving me ideas...
What is wrong with two fingers stabbing someone alongside each other?
What is wrong with an elbow in the face?
Not messy enough, I guess.
Then you repeat your elbow trick until it is messy!

Once they drop to the floor you can try and launch their heads into
orbit using your feet.

So next time (which I hope there will never be), I want a toothbrush (my
own) with toothpaste and a cup full of water. TIA.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
And you might eat the crayons.
And there's a problem with that why exactly?
Listen, this is what a psychiatrist once told me.
They let you eat your own poo because you won't get diarrea from eating
your own poo.
If you ate someone elses poo you would get diarrea.
Don't you feel secure with people thinking about your security like
that?
And if you ever forget to flush the toilet because you lived in an
isolation cell for almost a year....
Erm... some people are probably born sadists. And inevitably become
doctors...
Still it is pretty sick. The poo logic they use on you. One step further
you get nurses that see you as some shit eating madmen and it
deteriorates from there (ending with concentration camps and burning
people in it that are not completely dead yet).
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I heard some mental patient in Holland
once ate pages of the bible. So you won't find a bible around on the
closed wards these days anymore.
Probably better anyway. Having to read about the god the great and its
perfect and just world... in a cell... rather not.
In the cell you get NOTHING! I was talking about the closed ward.
There's closed and there's closed. I don't like the idea behind the
latter... How *do* they justify something like that?
We have an open ward (which you can leave) and a closed ward (where you
need a key to unlock the door to it).

Then there are two isolation cells in the closed ward in case you are 'a
bad ape'.

The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
I'm not exactly homicidal.
You should be.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Too bloody easy on them.
Then it shows them how helpless they are against a Red Dragon!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Careful... There are some things you might regret...
Exactly!
For me breaking off a relation is like pulling a lethal trigger. And
often there is no way back after that. People usually don't react well.
I bet.
I tell you the trick in case you wonder. You don't tell 'em. You just
tell everyone else and let them figure it out by themselves.
Oh, that's just totally evil.
Not if the alternative is telling someone: "I will not acknowledge you
existence from this moment on". Somehow that doesn't work IRL.
It does with *some* people, but I guess not on those you want/need to
get rid of.
Telling them is an invitation for them to say something back. At which
point you will also feel like saying something back.
Trust me, not telling them is the better way.
I'd still rather not.
Then you have to live with their insolence!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.
Oh, great, I'll apply for a chairman post in some major global company.
You only need to work enough not to get fired [obref].
I don't think I get that one.
Office Space.

Great movie!

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-10-02 20:23:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Oh, come on. There are enough /safe/ options for writing. Even little
children are allowed crayons and paper, for heaven's sake.
In fact, they don't even allow you to brush your teeth! In fear of you
stabbing the nurses to death with the toothbrush.
Hm... You *are* giving me ideas...
What is wrong with two fingers stabbing someone alongside each other?
What is wrong with an elbow in the face?
Not messy enough, I guess.
Then you repeat your elbow trick until it is messy!
Once they drop to the floor you can try and launch their heads into
orbit using your feet.
That's... sick. Very sick.
Post by Neo
So next time (which I hope there will never be), I want a toothbrush (my
own) with toothpaste and a cup full of water. TIA.
Only a cup?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
And you might eat the crayons.
And there's a problem with that why exactly?
Listen, this is what a psychiatrist once told me.
They let you eat your own poo because you won't get diarrea from eating
your own poo.
If you ate someone elses poo you would get diarrea.
Don't you feel secure with people thinking about your security like
that?
And if you ever forget to flush the toilet because you lived in an
isolation cell for almost a year....
Erm... some people are probably born sadists. And inevitably become
doctors...
Still it is pretty sick. The poo logic they use on you. One step further
you get nurses that see you as some shit eating madmen and it
deteriorates from there (ending with concentration camps and burning
people in it that are not completely dead yet).
By the way: Ingestion of *any* excrement is extremely unhealthy because
of what the microorganisms in your intestines do with it. That's
ignoring the fact that it *is* waste, and toxic one at that. Had to be
said.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I heard some mental patient in Holland
once ate pages of the bible. So you won't find a bible around on the
closed wards these days anymore.
Probably better anyway. Having to read about the god the great and its
perfect and just world... in a cell... rather not.
In the cell you get NOTHING! I was talking about the closed ward.
There's closed and there's closed. I don't like the idea behind the
latter... How *do* they justify something like that?
We have an open ward (which you can leave) and a closed ward (where you
need a key to unlock the door to it).
Yeah, I now *that* concept.
Post by Neo
Then there are two isolation cells in the closed ward in case you are 'a
bad ape'.
Which should under no circumstances be used over a longer period of
time. Besides, there's always fixating.
Post by Neo
The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
For the latter ones there is such a thing as a psychiatric prison, in
inhabitants of which (and ideally the institutions at whole) should be
kept well separated from the 'normal' wards.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
I'm not exactly homicidal.
You should be.
Why?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Too bloody easy on them.
Then it shows them how helpless they are against a Red Dragon!
So does a little cooking.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
You can't really live from something like that.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.
Oh, great, I'll apply for a chairman post in some major global company.
You only need to work enough not to get fired [obref].
I don't think I get that one.
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
--
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(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

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Neo
2009-10-10 12:08:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
If they let you keep it for posterity is another matter.
Oh, come on. There are enough /safe/ options for writing. Even little
children are allowed crayons and paper, for heaven's sake.
In fact, they don't even allow you to brush your teeth! In fear of you
stabbing the nurses to death with the toothbrush.
Hm... You *are* giving me ideas...
What is wrong with two fingers stabbing someone alongside each other?
What is wrong with an elbow in the face?
Not messy enough, I guess.
Then you repeat your elbow trick until it is messy!
Once they drop to the floor you can try and launch their heads into
orbit using your feet.
That's... sick. Very sick.
Just give me a toothbrush then! It is not that hard you know. And it
avoids a lot of unpleasantness!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
So next time (which I hope there will never be), I want a toothbrush (my
own) with toothpaste and a cup full of water. TIA.
Only a cup?
I take what I can get. Actually no cup at all would be better than no
toothbrush imho.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
And you might eat the crayons.
And there's a problem with that why exactly?
Listen, this is what a psychiatrist once told me.
They let you eat your own poo because you won't get diarrea from eating
your own poo.
If you ate someone elses poo you would get diarrea.
Don't you feel secure with people thinking about your security like
that?
And if you ever forget to flush the toilet because you lived in an
isolation cell for almost a year....
Erm... some people are probably born sadists. And inevitably become
doctors...
Still it is pretty sick. The poo logic they use on you. One step further
you get nurses that see you as some shit eating madmen and it
deteriorates from there (ending with concentration camps and burning
people in it that are not completely dead yet).
By the way: Ingestion of *any* excrement is extremely unhealthy because
of what the microorganisms in your intestines do with it. That's
ignoring the fact that it *is* waste, and toxic one at that. Had to be
said.
Tell that to my shrink. He thinks eating your own poo in an isolation
chamber is a great way to spend your time. After all, they would have
giving you other things to do if this was not the case (like playing
pong on a screen embedded in the wall behind unbreakable glass.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I heard some mental patient in Holland
once ate pages of the bible. So you won't find a bible around on the
closed wards these days anymore.
Probably better anyway. Having to read about the god the great and its
perfect and just world... in a cell... rather not.
In the cell you get NOTHING! I was talking about the closed ward.
There's closed and there's closed. I don't like the idea behind the
latter... How *do* they justify something like that?
We have an open ward (which you can leave) and a closed ward (where you
need a key to unlock the door to it).
Yeah, I now *that* concept.
Post by Neo
Then there are two isolation cells in the closed ward in case you are 'a
bad ape'.
Which should under no circumstances be used over a longer period of
time. Besides, there's always fixating.
People have been locked up in there for more than a year. And this still
takes place AFAIK. It was on the news last year. Very disturbing that
someone sane would do that to a fellow human being.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
For the latter ones there is such a thing as a psychiatric prison, in
inhabitants of which (and ideally the institutions at whole) should be
kept well separated from the 'normal' wards.
You go to prison for being suicidal? Do they lock you up for different
moods then that in Germany also?
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
I'm not exactly homicidal.
You should be.
Why?
It both is aggression. Onto yourself or onto another. Deadly aggression
I might add in both cases.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Too bloody easy on them.
Then it shows them how helpless they are against a Red Dragon!
So does a little cooking.
They will suffer more if they are kept alive.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
You can't really live from something like that.
You said Douglas Adams was rich.

Now DNA spoke English natively. But you seem readable to Red Dragon too
so why couldn't you be as popular also? As long as you keep a primary
job to ensure you are always able to write?
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.
Oh, great, I'll apply for a chairman post in some major global company.
You only need to work enough not to get fired [obref].
I don't think I get that one.
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.

It is a great movie! About office life being hell.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-10-10 12:50:36 UTC
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Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
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Post by Neo
What is wrong with an elbow in the face?
Not messy enough, I guess.
Then you repeat your elbow trick until it is messy!
Once they drop to the floor you can try and launch their heads into
orbit using your feet.
That's... sick. Very sick.
Just give me a toothbrush then! It is not that hard you know. And it
avoids a lot of unpleasantness!
Hey, I don't have anything to do with what goes on in the Netherlands.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
By the way: Ingestion of *any* excrement is extremely unhealthy because
of what the microorganisms in your intestines do with it. That's
ignoring the fact that it *is* waste, and toxic one at that. Had to be
said.
Tell that to my shrink. He thinks eating your own poo in an isolation
chamber is a great way to spend your time. After all, they would have
giving you other things to do if this was not the case (like playing
pong on a screen embedded in the wall behind unbreakable glass.
Everyone with just the least bit of knowledge on medicine should know
that much. BTW, drinking urine is perfectly healthy. At least up to the
point where your kidneys give up because they get swamped by too much
toxic stuff.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Then there are two isolation cells in the closed ward in case you are 'a
bad ape'.
Which should under no circumstances be used over a longer period of
time. Besides, there's always fixating.
People have been locked up in there for more than a year. And this still
takes place AFAIK. It was on the news last year. Very disturbing that
someone sane would do that to a fellow human being.
Such sanity would be severely in question.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
For the latter ones there is such a thing as a psychiatric prison, in
inhabitants of which (and ideally the institutions at whole) should be
kept well separated from the 'normal' wards.
You go to prison for being suicidal? Do they lock you up for different
moods then that in Germany also?
Read again. I was referring to the latter one, which was endangering
others. Of course there would have to be some actual crime before you
can be locked up like that.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
I'm not exactly homicidal.
You should be.
Why?
It both is aggression. Onto yourself or onto another. Deadly aggression
I might add in both cases.
I think you've lost me.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Too bloody easy on them.
Then it shows them how helpless they are against a Red Dragon!
So does a little cooking.
They will suffer more if they are kept alive.
Yeah, but they are more tasty well done and easier on your ears. Erm...
I guess that *would* be the case *if* I was a dragon, of course.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
You can't really live from something like that.
You said Douglas Adams was rich.
Nope, said he wasn't poor.
Post by Neo
Now DNA spoke English natively. But you seem readable to Red Dragon too
so why couldn't you be as popular also? As long as you keep a primary
job to ensure you are always able to write?
Popularity has to do with many factors. Command of language is one, as
is having a style people enjoy reading. And then, of course, there's
this whole plot business that makes stories interesting in the first
place. I seriously lack in the latter two, even once I stop messing up
the language. The real question is how many people would actually pay
for what I write? And would they even consider recommending it to others
or paying for a sequel. If the answer to that ever hits four figures
than we can talk again.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.
Oh, great, I'll apply for a chairman post in some major global company.
You only need to work enough not to get fired [obref].
I don't think I get that one.
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

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Neo
2009-10-16 12:20:23 UTC
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Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
What is wrong with an elbow in the face?
Not messy enough, I guess.
Then you repeat your elbow trick until it is messy!
Once they drop to the floor you can try and launch their heads into
orbit using your feet.
That's... sick. Very sick.
Just give me a toothbrush then! It is not that hard you know. And it
avoids a lot of unpleasantness!
Hey, I don't have anything to do with what goes on in the Netherlands.
Which is actually a good thing or I would leave and take JNCOBOY with
me! (Unless Red Dragon starts to post more frequent).
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
By the way: Ingestion of *any* excrement is extremely unhealthy because
of what the microorganisms in your intestines do with it. That's
ignoring the fact that it *is* waste, and toxic one at that. Had to be
said.
Tell that to my shrink. He thinks eating your own poo in an isolation
chamber is a great way to spend your time. After all, they would have
giving you other things to do if this was not the case (like playing
pong on a screen embedded in the wall behind unbreakable glass.
Everyone with just the least bit of knowledge on medicine should know
that much. BTW, drinking urine is perfectly healthy. At least up to the
point where your kidneys give up because they get swamped by too much
toxic stuff.
Great! Now I have two thing to do in isolation. Eat poo and drink piss!
I will never be bored again!!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Then there are two isolation cells in the closed ward in case you are 'a
bad ape'.
Which should under no circumstances be used over a longer period of
time. Besides, there's always fixating.
People have been locked up in there for more than a year. And this still
takes place AFAIK. It was on the news last year. Very disturbing that
someone sane would do that to a fellow human being.
Such sanity would be severely in question.
Yet it happens and management should know about this (with might in fact
be the problem here).
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
For the latter ones there is such a thing as a psychiatric prison, in
inhabitants of which (and ideally the institutions at whole) should be
kept well separated from the 'normal' wards.
You go to prison for being suicidal? Do they lock you up for different
moods then that in Germany also?
Read again. I was referring to the latter one, which was endangering
others. Of course there would have to be some actual crime before you
can be locked up like that.
That I can live with. Fortunately most schizophrenics are very peaceful
beings. When compared to 'normal' people.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
I'm not exactly homicidal.
You should be.
Why?
It both is aggression. Onto yourself or onto another. Deadly aggression
I might add in both cases.
I think you've lost me.
It is the same hormone in the brain. Unless you think killing yourself
isn't an aggressive act.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Too bloody easy on them.
Then it shows them how helpless they are against a Red Dragon!
So does a little cooking.
They will suffer more if they are kept alive.
Yeah, but they are more tasty well done and easier on your ears. Erm...
I guess that *would* be the case *if* I was a dragon, of course.
I sometimes wished I was a dragon or something. But it didn't get me out
of isolation. What did was asking for strong anti-psychotic medication,
so you just have to know the rules. It is not like they tell you this
when they lock you up.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
You can't really live from something like that.
You said Douglas Adams was rich.
Nope, said he wasn't poor.
You don't know that.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Now DNA spoke English natively. But you seem readable to Red Dragon too
so why couldn't you be as popular also? As long as you keep a primary
job to ensure you are always able to write?
Popularity has to do with many factors. Command of language is one, as
is having a style people enjoy reading. And then, of course, there's
this whole plot business that makes stories interesting in the first
place. I seriously lack in the latter two, even once I stop messing up
the language. The real question is how many people would actually pay
for what I write? And would they even consider recommending it to others
or paying for a sequel. If the answer to that ever hits four figures
than we can talk again.
Maybe you are catering for the wrong kind of people.

Plot seems pretty good to me but you never seem to finish your stories.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
even in your working hours if you choose your job right! Like a job with
many longish meetings or something.
Oh, great, I'll apply for a chairman post in some major global company.
You only need to work enough not to get fired [obref].
I don't think I get that one.
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-10-17 10:26:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
People have been locked up in there for more than a year. And this still
takes place AFAIK. It was on the news last year. Very disturbing that
someone sane would do that to a fellow human being.
Such sanity would be severely in question.
Yet it happens and management should know about this (with might in fact
be the problem here).
Isn't there some imperative to document that kind of thing?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
For the latter ones there is such a thing as a psychiatric prison, in
inhabitants of which (and ideally the institutions at whole) should be
kept well separated from the 'normal' wards.
You go to prison for being suicidal? Do they lock you up for different
moods then that in Germany also?
Read again. I was referring to the latter one, which was endangering
others. Of course there would have to be some actual crime before you
can be locked up like that.
That I can live with. Fortunately most schizophrenics are very peaceful
beings. When compared to 'normal' people.
For most people they should be given the help they ask for and be
otherwise, treated with respect. You might want to be careful about
trusting them to do what you expect them to, of course, but that applies
to all people, actually (although to varying degrees). Only when there
is a danger (or a crime, which could be seen as a danger to society)
anything should be enforced. You can quote me on that.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
I'm not exactly homicidal.
You should be.
Why?
It both is aggression. Onto yourself or onto another. Deadly aggression
I might add in both cases.
I think you've lost me.
It is the same hormone in the brain. Unless you think killing yourself
isn't an aggressive act.
No, not aggression. Apathy. Giving up.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Too bloody easy on them.
Then it shows them how helpless they are against a Red Dragon!
So does a little cooking.
They will suffer more if they are kept alive.
Yeah, but they are more tasty well done and easier on your ears. Erm...
I guess that *would* be the case *if* I was a dragon, of course.
I sometimes wished I was a dragon or something. But it didn't get me out
of isolation. What did was asking for strong anti-psychotic medication,
so you just have to know the rules. It is not like they tell you this
when they lock you up.
They ought to. If you come freely, you should be able to leave freely at
any time, anyway.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
You can't really live from something like that.
You said Douglas Adams was rich.
Nope, said he wasn't poor.
You don't know that.
I can make an educated guess, though. It's science!
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Now DNA spoke English natively. But you seem readable to Red Dragon too
so why couldn't you be as popular also? As long as you keep a primary
job to ensure you are always able to write?
Popularity has to do with many factors. Command of language is one, as
is having a style people enjoy reading. And then, of course, there's
this whole plot business that makes stories interesting in the first
place. I seriously lack in the latter two, even once I stop messing up
the language. The real question is how many people would actually pay
for what I write? And would they even consider recommending it to others
or paying for a sequel. If the answer to that ever hits four figures
than we can talk again.
Maybe you are catering for the wrong kind of people.
'Whoever cares to read it.' can hardly be the wrong kind, can it?
Post by Neo
Plot seems pretty good to me but you never seem to finish your stories.
Hey, it's still work in progress. Writing takes time, and if I figure
out halfway in, that I have to do some heavy retro-editing or redo
stuff, then so be it. With stuff in print you just never get to see
those stages. Maybe it's a pro, maybe a con, but that's the way it is.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
--
emmel <the_emmel*you-know-what-that's-for*@gmx.net>
(Don't forget to remove the ** bit)

story archives available at http://ranira.wordpress.com

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Proud owner of 1 (one) DISOBEDIENCE point.
Former owner of 1 (one) eating point (eaten, sigh).
Neo
2009-10-17 12:21:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
People have been locked up in there for more than a year. And this still
takes place AFAIK. It was on the news last year. Very disturbing that
someone sane would do that to a fellow human being.
Such sanity would be severely in question.
Yet it happens and management should know about this (with might in fact
be the problem here).
Isn't there some imperative to document that kind of thing?
Workload changes priority in Holland.

Throwing someone in an isolation cell is a cheap solution when it comes
to workload. The psychiatrists that won't be trusted anymore after that
happening will have a hard time regaining that trust again of course!

A psychiatrist is more rare and expensive than a nurse is.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
For the latter ones there is such a thing as a psychiatric prison, in
inhabitants of which (and ideally the institutions at whole) should be
kept well separated from the 'normal' wards.
You go to prison for being suicidal? Do they lock you up for different
moods then that in Germany also?
Read again. I was referring to the latter one, which was endangering
others. Of course there would have to be some actual crime before you
can be locked up like that.
That I can live with. Fortunately most schizophrenics are very peaceful
beings. When compared to 'normal' people.
For most people they should be given the help they ask for and be
otherwise, treated with respect. You might want to be careful about
trusting them to do what you expect them to, of course, but that applies
to all people, actually (although to varying degrees). Only when there
is a danger (or a crime, which could be seen as a danger to society)
anything should be enforced. You can quote me on that.
There are criminal mentally ill people just like there are criminal
mentally sane people. I can't say it more simple than that.

The thing is that criminal mentally ill people might have a different
view on the world than most people have. Like it is ok to kill people
because you are the devil and the devil kills people too.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
But even a couple of days in an isolation cell makes you wish you were a
40 foot Red Dragon burning down the whole place indiscriminately!
I get this every day...
"I am homicidal. I am suicidal." as Jim Thirlwell once put it.
I'm not exactly homicidal.
You should be.
Why?
It both is aggression. Onto yourself or onto another. Deadly aggression
I might add in both cases.
I think you've lost me.
It is the same hormone in the brain. Unless you think killing yourself
isn't an aggressive act.
No, not aggression. Apathy. Giving up.
You will find out that killing yourself takes a lot of aggression.
Apathy will result in 'I have this gun, but why bother loading it and
pulling the trigger when I can just lay down and feel miserable right here'.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Of course some people get locked away exactly for thinking they are a
Red Dragon ;-)
Hah, they shall try and be purified by the fires of vengeance!
Or you could just fly through a wall and leave..
Too bloody easy on them.
Then it shows them how helpless they are against a Red Dragon!
So does a little cooking.
They will suffer more if they are kept alive.
Yeah, but they are more tasty well done and easier on your ears. Erm...
I guess that *would* be the case *if* I was a dragon, of course.
I sometimes wished I was a dragon or something. But it didn't get me out
of isolation. What did was asking for strong anti-psychotic medication,
so you just have to know the rules. It is not like they tell you this
when they lock you up.
They ought to. If you come freely, you should be able to leave freely at
any time, anyway.
It is the other way around here.

When you go against your will you have certain rights as a patient.
When you go voluntarily you sign away those rights the moment you enter.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
You have to make your move before you run out of money. Takes some
bravery I know. Maybe you can get a job elsewhere which will allow you
to write while you are at your job :-) Something with quiet moments
between lots of work all at the same time!
Or maybe a person that looks at security cameras all the time.
In this economy? Think again.
Face it, you can have a job and write stories in your free time. Maybe
The first part might turn out to be tricky...
Facing it?
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
You can't really live from something like that.
You said Douglas Adams was rich.
Nope, said he wasn't poor.
You don't know that.
I can make an educated guess, though. It's science!
Remember that Douglas Adams hated writing! And he hated writing THHGTTG
even more that this!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Now DNA spoke English natively. But you seem readable to Red Dragon too
so why couldn't you be as popular also? As long as you keep a primary
job to ensure you are always able to write?
Popularity has to do with many factors. Command of language is one, as
is having a style people enjoy reading. And then, of course, there's
this whole plot business that makes stories interesting in the first
place. I seriously lack in the latter two, even once I stop messing up
the language. The real question is how many people would actually pay
for what I write? And would they even consider recommending it to others
or paying for a sequel. If the answer to that ever hits four figures
than we can talk again.
Maybe you are catering for the wrong kind of people.
'Whoever cares to read it.' can hardly be the wrong kind, can it?
Catering for them might.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Plot seems pretty good to me but you never seem to finish your stories.
Hey, it's still work in progress. Writing takes time, and if I figure
out halfway in, that I have to do some heavy retro-editing or redo
stuff, then so be it. With stuff in print you just never get to see
those stages. Maybe it's a pro, maybe a con, but that's the way it is.
That is ok I guess. If it becomes a better story in the process.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-10-17 16:55:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
People have been locked up in there for more than a year. And this still
takes place AFAIK. It was on the news last year. Very disturbing that
someone sane would do that to a fellow human being.
Such sanity would be severely in question.
Yet it happens and management should know about this (with might in fact
be the problem here).
Isn't there some imperative to document that kind of thing?
Workload changes priority in Holland.
Throwing someone in an isolation cell is a cheap solution when it comes
to workload. The psychiatrists that won't be trusted anymore after that
happening will have a hard time regaining that trust again of course!
A psychiatrist is more rare and expensive than a nurse is.
Oh, great, and that justifies anything?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
For the latter ones there is such a thing as a psychiatric prison, in
inhabitants of which (and ideally the institutions at whole) should be
kept well separated from the 'normal' wards.
You go to prison for being suicidal? Do they lock you up for different
moods then that in Germany also?
Read again. I was referring to the latter one, which was endangering
others. Of course there would have to be some actual crime before you
can be locked up like that.
That I can live with. Fortunately most schizophrenics are very peaceful
beings. When compared to 'normal' people.
For most people they should be given the help they ask for and be
otherwise, treated with respect. You might want to be careful about
trusting them to do what you expect them to, of course, but that applies
to all people, actually (although to varying degrees). Only when there
is a danger (or a crime, which could be seen as a danger to society)
anything should be enforced. You can quote me on that.
There are criminal mentally ill people just like there are criminal
mentally sane people. I can't say it more simple than that.
The thing is that criminal mentally ill people might have a different
view on the world than most people have. Like it is ok to kill people
because you are the devil and the devil kills people too.
...which ought to be locked up.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
It both is aggression. Onto yourself or onto another. Deadly aggression
I might add in both cases.
I think you've lost me.
It is the same hormone in the brain. Unless you think killing yourself
isn't an aggressive act.
No, not aggression. Apathy. Giving up.
You will find out that killing yourself takes a lot of aggression.
Apathy will result in 'I have this gun, but why bother loading it and
pulling the trigger when I can just lay down and feel miserable right here'.
There's apathy and apathy. Trust me on that.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I sometimes wished I was a dragon or something. But it didn't get me out
of isolation. What did was asking for strong anti-psychotic medication,
so you just have to know the rules. It is not like they tell you this
when they lock you up.
They ought to. If you come freely, you should be able to leave freely at
any time, anyway.
It is the other way around here.
When you go against your will you have certain rights as a patient.
When you go voluntarily you sign away those rights the moment you enter.
Madness.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
You can't really live from something like that.
You said Douglas Adams was rich.
Nope, said he wasn't poor.
You don't know that.
I can make an educated guess, though. It's science!
Remember that Douglas Adams hated writing! And he hated writing THHGTTG
even more that this!
Nah, he just hated being expected to write what he didn't want to. He
seemed to do fine with radio scripts, for instance, and 'Last Chance to
See' just has to have been fun doing for him.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Popularity has to do with many factors. Command of language is one, as
is having a style people enjoy reading. And then, of course, there's
this whole plot business that makes stories interesting in the first
place. I seriously lack in the latter two, even once I stop messing up
the language. The real question is how many people would actually pay
for what I write? And would they even consider recommending it to others
or paying for a sequel. If the answer to that ever hits four figures
than we can talk again.
Maybe you are catering for the wrong kind of people.
'Whoever cares to read it.' can hardly be the wrong kind, can it?
Catering for them might.
I write because I like doing it. I try to improve upon myself, so I *do*
adhere to tips and comments and so on, but I have the last word and in
the end I only write what I want to.
That has nothing to do with quality or popularity, however.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Plot seems pretty good to me but you never seem to finish your stories.
Hey, it's still work in progress. Writing takes time, and if I figure
out halfway in, that I have to do some heavy retro-editing or redo
stuff, then so be it. With stuff in print you just never get to see
those stages. Maybe it's a pro, maybe a con, but that's the way it is.
That is ok I guess. If it becomes a better story in the process.
I can only hope so.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
--
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Neo
2009-10-24 19:04:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
People have been locked up in there for more than a year. And this still
takes place AFAIK. It was on the news last year. Very disturbing that
someone sane would do that to a fellow human being.
Such sanity would be severely in question.
Yet it happens and management should know about this (with might in fact
be the problem here).
Isn't there some imperative to document that kind of thing?
Workload changes priority in Holland.
Throwing someone in an isolation cell is a cheap solution when it comes
to workload. The psychiatrists that won't be trusted anymore after that
happening will have a hard time regaining that trust again of course!
A psychiatrist is more rare and expensive than a nurse is.
Oh, great, and that justifies anything?
Yes. Get home by 5 'o clock at the expense of your patients and your
co-workers.

Violence against patients is less work than talking to them.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The justification is simple. You are a danger to yourself (suicidal
e.g.) or you are a danger to others (e.g. to people trying to lock you
up for possibly eternity).
For the latter ones there is such a thing as a psychiatric prison, in
inhabitants of which (and ideally the institutions at whole) should be
kept well separated from the 'normal' wards.
You go to prison for being suicidal? Do they lock you up for different
moods then that in Germany also?
Read again. I was referring to the latter one, which was endangering
others. Of course there would have to be some actual crime before you
can be locked up like that.
That I can live with. Fortunately most schizophrenics are very peaceful
beings. When compared to 'normal' people.
For most people they should be given the help they ask for and be
otherwise, treated with respect. You might want to be careful about
trusting them to do what you expect them to, of course, but that applies
to all people, actually (although to varying degrees). Only when there
is a danger (or a crime, which could be seen as a danger to society)
anything should be enforced. You can quote me on that.
There are criminal mentally ill people just like there are criminal
mentally sane people. I can't say it more simple than that.
The thing is that criminal mentally ill people might have a different
view on the world than most people have. Like it is ok to kill people
because you are the devil and the devil kills people too.
...which ought to be locked up.
Yet anti-psychotics can do wonders (or so they tell you).
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
It both is aggression. Onto yourself or onto another. Deadly aggression
I might add in both cases.
I think you've lost me.
It is the same hormone in the brain. Unless you think killing yourself
isn't an aggressive act.
No, not aggression. Apathy. Giving up.
You will find out that killing yourself takes a lot of aggression.
Apathy will result in 'I have this gun, but why bother loading it and
pulling the trigger when I can just lay down and feel miserable right here'.
There's apathy and apathy. Trust me on that.
"There are depths".

Quote from a friend of mine.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I sometimes wished I was a dragon or something. But it didn't get me out
of isolation. What did was asking for strong anti-psychotic medication,
so you just have to know the rules. It is not like they tell you this
when they lock you up.
They ought to. If you come freely, you should be able to leave freely at
any time, anyway.
It is the other way around here.
When you go against your will you have certain rights as a patient.
When you go voluntarily you sign away those rights the moment you enter.
Madness.
A patient who knows how these things work can take his advantage from
this knowledge.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Very funny. [not]
Right now it seems writing stories is your only job. While it should be
a second source of income!
You can't really live from something like that.
You said Douglas Adams was rich.
Nope, said he wasn't poor.
You don't know that.
I can make an educated guess, though. It's science!
Remember that Douglas Adams hated writing! And he hated writing THHGTTG
even more that this!
Nah, he just hated being expected to write what he didn't want to. He
seemed to do fine with radio scripts, for instance, and 'Last Chance to
See' just has to have been fun doing for him.
Seems rather stressful to me, writing that last book. The flying there
alone would be a reason for me not to go to those places!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Popularity has to do with many factors. Command of language is one, as
is having a style people enjoy reading. And then, of course, there's
this whole plot business that makes stories interesting in the first
place. I seriously lack in the latter two, even once I stop messing up
the language. The real question is how many people would actually pay
for what I write? And would they even consider recommending it to others
or paying for a sequel. If the answer to that ever hits four figures
than we can talk again.
Maybe you are catering for the wrong kind of people.
'Whoever cares to read it.' can hardly be the wrong kind, can it?
Catering for them might.
I write because I like doing it. I try to improve upon myself, so I *do*
adhere to tips and comments and so on, but I have the last word and in
the end I only write what I want to.
That has nothing to do with quality or popularity, however.
But you want both right?!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Plot seems pretty good to me but you never seem to finish your stories.
Hey, it's still work in progress. Writing takes time, and if I figure
out halfway in, that I have to do some heavy retro-editing or redo
stuff, then so be it. With stuff in print you just never get to see
those stages. Maybe it's a pro, maybe a con, but that's the way it is.
That is ok I guess. If it becomes a better story in the process.
I can only hope so.
Though even re-reading THHGTTH has it's limits. Though the first few
times are great!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/

::kicks portrait::

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-10-25 16:28:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Throwing someone in an isolation cell is a cheap solution when it comes
to workload. The psychiatrists that won't be trusted anymore after that
happening will have a hard time regaining that trust again of course!
A psychiatrist is more rare and expensive than a nurse is.
Oh, great, and that justifies anything?
Yes. Get home by 5 'o clock at the expense of your patients and your
co-workers.
Violence against patients is less work than talking to them.
Doesn't justify anything, though.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
For most people they should be given the help they ask for and be
otherwise, treated with respect. You might want to be careful about
trusting them to do what you expect them to, of course, but that applies
to all people, actually (although to varying degrees). Only when there
is a danger (or a crime, which could be seen as a danger to society)
anything should be enforced. You can quote me on that.
There are criminal mentally ill people just like there are criminal
mentally sane people. I can't say it more simple than that.
The thing is that criminal mentally ill people might have a different
view on the world than most people have. Like it is ok to kill people
because you are the devil and the devil kills people too.
...which ought to be locked up.
Yet anti-psychotics can do wonders (or so they tell you).
Huh? What exactly are you aiming at.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
It both is aggression. Onto yourself or onto another. Deadly aggression
I might add in both cases.
I think you've lost me.
It is the same hormone in the brain. Unless you think killing yourself
isn't an aggressive act.
No, not aggression. Apathy. Giving up.
You will find out that killing yourself takes a lot of aggression.
Apathy will result in 'I have this gun, but why bother loading it and
pulling the trigger when I can just lay down and feel miserable right here'.
There's apathy and apathy. Trust me on that.
"There are depths".
Quote from a friend of mine.
So?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
I sometimes wished I was a dragon or something. But it didn't get me out
of isolation. What did was asking for strong anti-psychotic medication,
so you just have to know the rules. It is not like they tell you this
when they lock you up.
They ought to. If you come freely, you should be able to leave freely at
any time, anyway.
It is the other way around here.
When you go against your will you have certain rights as a patient.
When you go voluntarily you sign away those rights the moment you enter.
Madness.
A patient who knows how these things work can take his advantage from
this knowledge.
I guess so.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Remember that Douglas Adams hated writing! And he hated writing THHGTTG
even more that this!
Nah, he just hated being expected to write what he didn't want to. He
seemed to do fine with radio scripts, for instance, and 'Last Chance to
See' just has to have been fun doing for him.
Seems rather stressful to me, writing that last book. The flying there
alone would be a reason for me not to go to those places!
You haven't actually read it, have you?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Popularity has to do with many factors. Command of language is one, as
is having a style people enjoy reading. And then, of course, there's
this whole plot business that makes stories interesting in the first
place. I seriously lack in the latter two, even once I stop messing up
the language. The real question is how many people would actually pay
for what I write? And would they even consider recommending it to others
or paying for a sequel. If the answer to that ever hits four figures
than we can talk again.
Maybe you are catering for the wrong kind of people.
'Whoever cares to read it.' can hardly be the wrong kind, can it?
Catering for them might.
I write because I like doing it. I try to improve upon myself, so I *do*
adhere to tips and comments and so on, but I have the last word and in
the end I only write what I want to.
That has nothing to do with quality or popularity, however.
But you want both right?!
I can do without the latter, I guess, as long as the few people who care
are the right ones.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Plot seems pretty good to me but you never seem to finish your stories.
Hey, it's still work in progress. Writing takes time, and if I figure
out halfway in, that I have to do some heavy retro-editing or redo
stuff, then so be it. With stuff in print you just never get to see
those stages. Maybe it's a pro, maybe a con, but that's the way it is.
That is ok I guess. If it becomes a better story in the process.
I can only hope so.
Though even re-reading THHGTTH has it's limits. Though the first few
times are great!
The first 42 are great. So are the next 42. It gets a bit slow after
that...
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Uhoh.
--
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Neo
2009-10-27 13:50:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Throwing someone in an isolation cell is a cheap solution when it comes
to workload. The psychiatrists that won't be trusted anymore after that
happening will have a hard time regaining that trust again of course!
A psychiatrist is more rare and expensive than a nurse is.
Oh, great, and that justifies anything?
Yes. Get home by 5 'o clock at the expense of your patients and your
co-workers.
Violence against patients is less work than talking to them.
Doesn't justify anything, though.
It justifies fighting them by use of excessive force for me!
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
For most people they should be given the help they ask for and be
otherwise, treated with respect. You might want to be careful about
trusting them to do what you expect them to, of course, but that applies
to all people, actually (although to varying degrees). Only when there
is a danger (or a crime, which could be seen as a danger to society)
anything should be enforced. You can quote me on that.
There are criminal mentally ill people just like there are criminal
mentally sane people. I can't say it more simple than that.
The thing is that criminal mentally ill people might have a different
view on the world than most people have. Like it is ok to kill people
because you are the devil and the devil kills people too.
...which ought to be locked up.
Yet anti-psychotics can do wonders (or so they tell you).
Huh? What exactly are you aiming at.
Once the voices go away you might see a whole different person than the
one that set your cat on fire.
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Remember that Douglas Adams hated writing! And he hated writing THHGTTG
even more that this!
Nah, he just hated being expected to write what he didn't want to. He
seemed to do fine with radio scripts, for instance, and 'Last Chance to
See' just has to have been fun doing for him.
Seems rather stressful to me, writing that last book. The flying there
alone would be a reason for me not to go to those places!
You haven't actually read it, have you?
I am halfway through it. Too much excitement I guess :-)
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Uhoh.
Nothing happened.
::kicks portrait again::

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
emmel
2009-10-27 18:27:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The thing is that criminal mentally ill people might have a different
view on the world than most people have. Like it is ok to kill people
because you are the devil and the devil kills people too.
...which ought to be locked up.
Yet anti-psychotics can do wonders (or so they tell you).
Huh? What exactly are you aiming at.
Once the voices go away you might see a whole different person than the
one that set your cat on fire.
Now, is that a good or a bad thing?
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Remember that Douglas Adams hated writing! And he hated writing THHGTTG
even more that this!
Nah, he just hated being expected to write what he didn't want to. He
seemed to do fine with radio scripts, for instance, and 'Last Chance to
See' just has to have been fun doing for him.
Seems rather stressful to me, writing that last book. The flying there
alone would be a reason for me not to go to those places!
You haven't actually read it, have you?
I am halfway through it. Too much excitement I guess :-)
If you say so.
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Uhoh.
Nothing happened.
You are asking for trouble, obviously.
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Neo
2009-11-04 16:30:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
The thing is that criminal mentally ill people might have a different
view on the world than most people have. Like it is ok to kill people
because you are the devil and the devil kills people too.
...which ought to be locked up.
Yet anti-psychotics can do wonders (or so they tell you).
Huh? What exactly are you aiming at.
Once the voices go away you might see a whole different person than the
one that set your cat on fire.
Now, is that a good or a bad thing?
Psychiatric patients have enough on their mind without the police being
on the lookout for them also.

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
Red Dragon
2009-10-27 15:01:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?

And oy! Get away from the carpet, you know it'll just burn you.
Not that scales are must more comfortable, but at least I'm warm.
emmel
2009-10-27 18:28:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
And oy! Get away from the carpet, you know it'll just burn you.
Not that scales are must more comfortable, but at least I'm warm.
Now where did I put those sausages?
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Red Dragon
2009-10-28 15:40:07 UTC
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Post by emmel
Post by Red Dragon
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Post by emmel
Post by Neo
Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
And oy! Get away from the carpet, you know it'll just burn you.
Not that scales are must more comfortable, but at least I'm warm.
Now where did I put those sausages?
*burp!* Oh, uh, sorry... Were those for a special occasion?
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Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
And oy! Get away from the carpet, you know it'll just burn you.
Not that scales are must more comfortable, but at least I'm warm.
Now where did I put those sausages?
*burp!* Oh, uh, sorry... Were those for a special occasion?
Not as such, but I would have preferred if you fried them beforehand.
And shared. Definitely shared.
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2009-11-03 16:14:52 UTC
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Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
And oy! Get away from the carpet, you know it'll just burn you.
Not that scales are must more comfortable, but at least I'm warm.
Now where did I put those sausages?
*burp!* Oh, uh, sorry... Were those for a special occasion?
Not as such, but I would have preferred if you fried them beforehand.
And shared. Definitely shared.
They were fried going down...
Can't do much about the sharing though, since humans don't really
seem to like second-hand food.
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2009-11-03 17:39:12 UTC
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Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
And oy! Get away from the carpet, you know it'll just burn you.
Not that scales are must more comfortable, but at least I'm warm.
Now where did I put those sausages?
*burp!* Oh, uh, sorry... Were those for a special occasion?
Not as such, but I would have preferred if you fried them beforehand.
And shared. Definitely shared.
They were fried going down...
Can't do much about the sharing though, since humans don't really
seem to like second-hand food.
Which humans? And I never admitted eating the second hand... Or the
first hand at that.
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Neo
2009-11-04 16:33:13 UTC
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Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
And oy! Get away from the carpet, you know it'll just burn you.
Not that scales are must more comfortable, but at least I'm warm.
Now where did I put those sausages?
*burp!* Oh, uh, sorry... Were those for a special occasion?
Not as such, but I would have preferred if you fried them beforehand.
And shared. Definitely shared.
They were fried going down...
Can't do much about the sharing though, since humans don't really
seem to like second-hand food.
Or a free drink out of a Vogon.

Neo
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2009-11-04 18:43:04 UTC
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Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
And oy! Get away from the carpet, you know it'll just burn you.
Not that scales are must more comfortable, but at least I'm warm.
Now where did I put those sausages?
*burp!* Oh, uh, sorry... Were those for a special occasion?
Not as such, but I would have preferred if you fried them beforehand.
And shared. Definitely shared.
They were fried going down...
Can't do much about the sharing though, since humans don't really
seem to like second-hand food.
Or a free drink out of a Vogon.
Oh, that one's easy to get. I just don't care too much about the taste.
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Neo
2009-11-04 16:38:28 UTC
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Office Space.
Great movie!
Never seen it.
Guy working at software company gets hypnotised and stays that way
somehow. So he is really relaxed at his work and really doesn't give a
s*** anymore. Then there comes a reorganisation and the consultants
doing the interviewing for the reorganisation think he should become
management. Then they fire his colleges who work their a**** off and
they decide to rob the software company using their inside knowledge.
It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
A layer of paint and it will be good as new!
::gives can of paint and brushes::
::bows::
::d&rlhuhw::

Neo
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2009-11-04 18:44:12 UTC
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It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
A layer of paint and it will be good as new!
Careful, or we'll have to redo the wall's paint coat as well.
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Red Dragon
2009-11-06 17:19:00 UTC
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It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
A layer of paint and it will be good as new!
Careful, or we'll have to redo the wall's paint coat as well.
But this paint doesn't even match the frame...
I'm sure I can coat the walls evenly in the assumed violent rage.
Neo
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It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
A layer of paint and it will be good as new!
Careful, or we'll have to redo the wall's paint coat as well.
But this paint doesn't even match the frame...
I'm sure I can coat the walls evenly in the assumed violent rage.
::hides under rock::
::retracts arms and legs::

Neo
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2009-11-07 10:14:28 UTC
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It is a great movie! About office life being hell.
Hell... I don't need a picture for that, I can have it first hand
whenever I want!
It is about disfunctioning without getting fired however.
So? I'm dysfunctional and still not removed from my position among the
living creatures. Yet.
Maybe you need to play with the carpet a bit to fix this.
At this point I might consider cuddling with it. I could do with a hug.
I think you need to kick the portrait of Red Dragon to get a good hug
:-/
Neo
You didn't chip the frame, did you?
A layer of paint and it will be good as new!
Careful, or we'll have to redo the wall's paint coat as well.
But this paint doesn't even match the frame...
I'm sure I can coat the walls evenly in the assumed violent rage.
Just don't out any pink flowers on it. (Yes, there's a reason I said
that.)
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emmel
2009-09-30 09:11:37 UTC
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In merely subject related notes: I've finished updating my toolchain for
creating the pdf version of ATC, updating the licensing to CC version
3.0 (and redoing the complete copyright page subsequently) and - for the
first time - using a different typeface than Computer Modern. Actually
I'm using three fonts now...
Anyway, I somehow have this general feeling of accomplishment,
even though I haven't gotten any further with the writing or have
anything else to show for as the pdf on the site is still the old one.
In other words: You may throw your rotten tomatoes and eggs now.
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